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<DIV>".....from however flat it is up to pitch....."</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Even if the dang thing is two or three =
semi-tones
flat?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I thought there was a danger of =
over-stretching a
string if you pull it more than 25 cents or so sharp. If there is one, =
where
does that window of safety end?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Terry Farrell</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=mjmccoy@usa.com href="mailto:mjmccoy@usa.com">Mike =
McCoy</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 11, =
2004 8:23
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: A-440 and =
Ethics.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Terry,<BR><BR> "All at once" meaning from =
however flat
it is up to pitch followed by a fine tune and then maybe a 3rd pass =
just to
touch up.. all the same appointment.<BR><BR>Mike<BR><BR>Farrell =
wrote:<BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As in one pass?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Terry Farrell</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=mjmccoy@usa.com href="mailto:mjmccoy@usa.com">Mike =
McCoy</A>
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normal"><B>Sent:</B>
Thursday, November 11, 2004 12:36 PM</DIV>
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normal"><B>Subject:</B>
Re: A-440 and Ethics.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I have yet to walk away from a piano leaving it =
flat, and
the majority of my customer base is 1920-30's uprights and I do it =
all at
once with RCT. Rarely do strings break and once I had 3, but that =
was the
most. I don't do this because of any philosophy of mine, but =
because it
has been what I learned from the Potter course, convention classes =
and
other techs I respect. It was explained to me that early on that =
ear
training is very important for piano students. If the piano is =
intended
for lessons and it can not handle a pitch raise then it's time for =
a
different piano, but I have not had to condemn one yet. It is also =
my
understanding that if the plate breaks because of a pitch =
raise/correction
then there was most likely a defect in the plate, is that =
not
true??<BR><BR>Is a new student's progress hampered by a flat
piano?<BR><BR>Mike<BR><BR><BR><BR>Mike McCoy <BR>Langhorne, =
Pa<BR><BR><A
class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:Alpha88x@aol.com">Alpha88x@aol.com</A> wrote:<BR>
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ptsize="10"
family="SANSSERIF">Greetings,
=
<BR><BR>  =
;
Usually, when I get a tuning call, it is a piano which hasn't =
been kept
up the tunings on. I always ask how long since it was last =
tuned. They
usually don't know. especially if they have taken in an "orphan" =
=
piano.<BR><BR>  =
;
I do not like to raise the A4 pitch on any piano more than say =
1/4 a
tone or so, if it's been neglectd tunings. This is because I =
don't want
to run the risk of cracking anyone's harp plate, let alone =
breaking
strings. Especially on the little spinets, whose plates are 5/8" =
or less
=
thick.<BR><BR>  =
;
When I get to the house, I check the A-440 and it's octaves and =
get an
idea of the overall tone of the piano; whrere it went flat the =
most. I
always explain the concept of A-440 to the customer, and more =
times than
not, it doesnt matter to them if its up to A-440 or not.
=
<BR><BR>
They just would like it in tune with itself. I also explain that =
pianos
are designed to be tuned to A-440 for best results. (unless it =
is an
extremely old, dry upright that's seen better days and wont let =
you even
gradually take it up that far, even with subsequent =
tunings/loose pins
or bridges coming off) I tune it the best I can get it, to sound =
at the
A-4?? and suggest subsequent tunings so we can gradually get it =
there.
They agree to a reminder card from me for follow ups ....say, 4 =
to 6 mo
for the first follow-up. I also inform them that with each =
tuning the
piano becomes more stable and to never let a piano go more than =
2 years
=
max.<BR><BR> On
hearing these pianos, they are so, so neglected and out of tune, =
the
piano <I>always</I> sounds better upon my departure, and thats =
all alot
of folks want in order to start the kid's lessons, without =
paying "an
arm and a leg". With customers who are more vigilant of =
how their
piano sounds is another
=
matter.<BR><BR> My =
tuning teacher used to say "As long as it sounds a lot better =
when you
leave than from when you arrived". <BR><BR>Julia, <BR>Reading,
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