<DIV>Did Baldwin actually make the Howard and the Monarch?  Somewhere I got the idea that Kawai made some Howards for Baldwin.  Am I looney?  Also, do the plates on the Howards have the name Baldwin or Howard molded into the casting.  This one has no name on the plate.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>BTW, the maybe Howard I'm trying to identify does have a medallion on the inner rim that says Baldwin or House of Baldwin.  But I thought that kind of thing could just be purchased from Baldwin perhaps and stuck on there, just like you can buy a decal and stick it on any piano.  That is if you don't mind doing time for fraud.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Al F. <BR><BR><B><I>Farrell <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The action that I posted on a couple days ago (front rail punchings...) is a Baldwin "Monarch" about 5-foot and has no support beams in the belly. I think it also has a two-piece fallboard and no markings on the plate. Oh, and it has a kinda crappy action.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Terry Farrell</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=apfinley@yahoo.com href="mailto:apfinley@yahoo.com">Al Finley</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 16, 2004 11:30 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Howard Grand identification</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV> <DIV>Hi Piano Tech list. </DIV> <DIV>I would like to get your input to help me identify a piano I worked on today.  The owners were told it was a Howard grand made by Baldwin.  It has been rebuilt and the Howard name is not on it anymore.  It has tuning pin bushings, no markings on the plate as to the manufacturer, a fall board that folds back on itself and then folds back under.  It has no support beams and is about 5' 5" but I didn't measure it, that's just an estimate.  Could this be a Howard?  Are there other things to look for to help identify it?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> I had my doubts because I know that Baldwin does not have tuning pin bushings (at least not in models that I'm aware of).  Also, I know of no models of Baldwins that do not have support beams.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>What do you think?  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Al F.</DIV></DIV> <P> <HR SIZE=1> Do you Yahoo!?<BR>Discover all that’s new in <A href="http://my.yahoo.com/">My Yahoo!</A> </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><p> <hr size=1>Do you Yahoo!?<br> The <a href="http://my.yahoo.com">all-new My Yahoo!</a> – Get yours free!