<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; = charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=ProgId content=Word.Document> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=File-List href="cid:filelist.xml@01C623EE.25497EC0"> <link rel=Edit-Time-Data href="cid:editdata.mso@01C623EE.25497EC0"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = name="City"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"/>  <style>  </style>  </head> <body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple = style='tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=Section1> I ditto what John has said here = mostly. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Sometimes even in a church where it = is playing with other instruments I will float the pitch. If I am seeing summer/winter swings of +/- 20 cents I will tune it to +/- 10 cents accordingly. I explain to the music minister as I am giving the DampChaser pitch that this will keep the piano = closer to pitch most of the time. I show them my record of the wild pitch = fluctuations their piano is experiencing (obviously this only works if you have been tuning = it for a couple years and have a record) and explain that it makes no sense to = bring it up from -20 cents to 440 when that will mean it will go that much = sharper in the Summer. If he wants the piano closer to pitch we either have to go = to monthly tunings or install a full DampChaser system. = <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> But it the piano is in an = environment where 440 is not critical, and if it is a piano I have a history with so = I have hard data on how it responds to our seasons around here, I will float = the pitch all the time. I don’t ask, I just do = it. I may give a little explanation after tuning as to what and why I did it along = with a soft sell DampChaser brochure. = <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> Dean<o:p></o:p></fon= t> Dean May       &nbs= p;     cell 812.239.3359<o:p></o:p> PianoRebuilders.co= m   = 812.235.5272<o:p></o:p> Terre Haute = IN  = 47802<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> -----Origi= nal Message----- From: = pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of John Formsma Sent: Saturday, January = 28, 2006 8:17 AM To: 'Pianotech List' Subject: RE: frequent = tuning - floating pitch? was tuning <o:p> </o:p> Jason,<o:p></o:p>= <o:p> </o:p>= I float the = pitch all the time. Stability is my goal rather than having the piano = “dead-on” A440 all the time.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p>= Here’s the = typical scenario…it’s winter now and the piano is 4-5 cents flat in = the bass, -12 in the tenor, and -5 in the treble. So, I do a one-pass tuning = to A439. This way, in the summer, things will be a bit sharp of A440. If = you pitch correct all the time, the piano is not as stable. In the summer, when = the piano is sharp, I’ll tune to A440 or A441, whichever will give the best stability.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p>= Now, if the = piano is in a church that uses other instruments, it gets tuned to A440. However, in = certain less “critical” situations, I’ll get within 2 cents of = A440 depending on the season. Most people don’t ever notice that = difference. Again, the goal is stability rather than being at A440 all the = time.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p>= From the = perspective of most customers, they want a piano in tune with itself, and don’t = really care if it’s at A439 or A441. They do care about paying extra for pitch corrections every season to have it right at A440. If I see other = instruments like a guitar or violin near the piano, I’ll ask the = customer’s preference first. Yes, I do offer DC = systems.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p>= John = Formsma<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p>= <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center = style='margin-left:.5in;text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center> </div> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Jason Kanter Sent: Saturday, January = 28, 2006 1:22 AM To: 'Pianotech List' Subject: frequent tuning = - floating pitch? was tuning<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> I imagine that = if you "recently" tuned the piano (last week or last month or two = months ago) and now it's still "in tune" but a couple of cents sharp, = you tune it where it lies? That makes it a half-hour tuning instead of an = hour and a half, and the following week (or month or couple of months) you again = tune it where it lies, and within six months, when you have the couple of hours, = you bring it all to 440 again. Yes? Or do you keep adjusting it to 440 every = time? Or sell Dampp-chasers?<o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> <div> || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || Jason Kanter . jkanter@rollingball.com Piano tuning, regulation, repair Serving Seattle and the San Juans 425.830.1561 =  <o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> <div class=MsoNormal align=center = style='margin-left:.5in;text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center> </div> From:</spa= n> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of PJR Sent: Friday, January 27, = 2006 5:16 PM To: Pianotech List Subject: Re: = tuning<o:p></o:p> I tune cruise = ship pianos once a week.  On them you have the problem of rocking, vibrations, = salt air, hard players and continuous playing (mechanisms).  Comes down = to the fact that you tune a whenever it needs it. Phil Ryan Miami Beach pianotune05 wrote: <o:p></o:p> <div> Hi = everyone,<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> How = often is too often to tune a piano?  I typically see twice a year, or even every = three months.  Is anything less than that necessary such as once a month = or even once a week which I 've heard of?<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <st1:City = st="on"><st1:place st="on">Marshall</st1:= place></st1:City><o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> </body> </html>