<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML style="FONT-SIZE: x-small; FONT-FAMILY: MS Sans Serif"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2802" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY style="BORDER-TOP-STYLE: none; BORDER-RIGHT-STYLE: none; = BORDER-LEFT-STYLE: none; BORDER-BOTTOM-STYLE: none" bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>With the key in the frame (neighboring keys = removed) place a half by half strip of wood or I use a half by half steel angle strip = under the front of the keys so that the key is resting on its bottom front = surface.  The top of the key is now flat parallel to the floor.  Glue the = button on so that the slot is perpendicular to the front and the balance rail pin = is a bit to the rear of the center.  I could see a possible need to bend the = pin if things don't line up right.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Buttons aside, propping up the front of the keys = like that gives an opportunity to bend balance rail pins to straighten up = leaning key tops as well as bending front rail pins to give good key spacing.  = That is part of my key leveling routine.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Carl Meyer PTG assoc<BR>Santa Clara, = Ca.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=ilvey@sbcglobal.net = href="mailto:ilvey@sbcglobal.net">David Ilvedson</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, February 05, 2006 = 11:02 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Key Button Installation</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><BR>Carl,<BR><BR>How did you locate the key button position?<BR><BR>David Ilvedson, RPT<BR>Pacifica, = California<BR><BR><BR><BR> <DIV style="PADDING-RIGHT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 3px solid; PADDING-TOP: 5px"> <HR> Original message<BR>From: "Carl Meyer" <CMPIANO@COMCAST.NET><BR>To: <A = href="mailto:spalding48@earthlink.net">spalding48@earthlink.net</A>, = "Pianotech List" <PIANOTECH@PTG.ORG><BR>Received: 2/5/2006 10:33:12 AM<BR>Subject: Re: Key Button Installation<BR><BR> <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial>Here is a picture of a one inch = sander with a clamped board behind using short ends of angle brackets to serve as a stop.  Adjust position with a straight edge against the belt and = clamp with a couple of squeeze clamps.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Now the second picture shows how you can just = zip off the overhang without taking a bunch of wood off the key.  First = time I tried this without the stop, the dam key almost disappeared.  Use = 35 or 50 grit belts.  Works fast.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Carl Meyer PTG assoc<BR>Santa Clara, = Ca.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=spalding48@earthlink.net href="mailto:spalding48@earthlink.net">Michael Spalding</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, February 05, = 2006 3:13 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Key Button Installation</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV> <DIV>Terry,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>David Betts gave a class on this (in = Nashville?).    Can't find the handout.   For each section of keys, cut = the new buttons to the average angle and wider than the key.  = Installation is in the keyframe in two batches,  every other key so you have = clearance in between.   Or three batches, if you want to do the = blacks separate from the whites.  Keys resting on wooden bars so they = are level and at the right height.   May have to remove front punchings.  Straight edge on top of keys along front of buttons = for alignment, both angular and front-to-back.  Side-to-side = alignment is provided by the balance rail pin.  No clamps required:  = Tite-bond, hold in place for count of 7, move on.   When = fully cured, trim flush to key with band saw, finish with sandpaper = block.  2 hours sounds optimistic, would you settle for 4 to 5?  Clear as = mud??</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Mike </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message ----- = </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com href="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com">Farrell</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 2/4/2006 10:02:19 PM = </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Key Button Installation</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I need to install new key buttons = on 88 keys. Never done it before. I have the Journals on CD, but have never = been able to do a search on them. I found an old article by Fern Henry that described a very simple method/jig to do this task. The = few articles I have found suggest that many techs prefer to = replace button rather than rebush and complete the task in about two = hours. In two hours, following a modified Fern Henry method, I have = eight keys done. I've got 80 to go. At this pace it will take me = the better part of a week to install a set of key buttons. Is = anyone aware of a good article in the PTG Journal that describes the = procedure? I see the Jaras Key Button jig in the Schaff catalog - anyone have = an opinion on that? Anyone got any other = favorite/excellent-result/fast method of replacing key buttons?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks for any = input.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Terry = Farrell</FONT></DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><= /BODY></HTML>