<DIV>John,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>When did you get a Verituner and how would you compare it to the SAT III?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Rick John Formsma <john@formsmapiano.com> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">David, > One hundred cents would be asking a lot of any machine. The pitch raise > function is really designed to give a fairly accurate tuning when the piano > is moderately flat or sharp, I would say less than 20 cents. So, on a Kawai RX-2 like I did yesterday - everything was sharp: tenor was 12-15¢, treble was c. 10¢ tapering down to 5¢ in the upper treble. I tuned to A441 in one pass, tuning the entire middle section first, then treble, then bass. It took about an hour and turned out great. Would the VT be able to do a good fine tuning to A441 in one pass in this situation? > You can select your preferences for how much overpull there will be as you are > tuning. The machine doesn't really "calculate" on overall tuning, rather, > it measures each note as you go and gives you a percentage overpull for > that note depending on how you program it. OK, so in "Coarse" mode you're only measuring pitch, not partials. > I would count on at least 2 passes for a rough tuning of a piano at 100 cents off. > A pitch raise that requires accurate unison tuning (if you want to leave the piano after you are done with one pass) will take as long as it takes you to tune them aurally. So, really, it sounds like aural tuning in that you get closer and closer until you do the fine tuning. Except that the Verituner reduces the gray matter activity. <G> Thanks - you've been most helpful. John Formsma _______________________________________________ pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</BLOCKQUOTE> <hr size=1>Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. <a href="http://messenger.yahoo.com/">Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger</a>