<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2523" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Samick made very late Howards = (80's)  Baldwin made them in the 1920-50 years.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>James Grebe<BR>Piano-Forte Tuning & Repair<BR>Creator of = Handsome Hardwood Caster Cups<BR>(314) 608-4137<BR><A href="http://www.JamesGrebe.com">WWW.JamesGrebe.com</A><BR>1526 = Raspberry Lane<BR>Arnold, MO 63010<BR>BECOME WHAT YOU BELIEVE!<BR><A href="mailto:pianoman@accessus.net">pianoman@accessus.net</A></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=apfinley@yahoo.com href="mailto:apfinley@yahoo.com">Al = Finley</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 17, = 2004 11:35 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Howard Grand identification</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Did Baldwin actually make the Howard and the Monarch?  = Somewhere I got the idea that Kawai made some Howards for Baldwin.  Am I looney?  Also, do the plates on the Howards have the name Baldwin = or Howard molded into the casting.  This one has no name on the = plate.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>BTW, the maybe Howard I'm trying to identify does have a = medallion on the inner rim that says Baldwin or House of Baldwin.  But I thought = that kind of thing could just be purchased from Baldwin perhaps and stuck on = there, just like you can buy a decal and stick it on any piano.  That is if = you don't mind doing time for fraud.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Al F. <BR><BR><B><I>Farrell = <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px = solid"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The action that I posted on a = couple days ago (front rail punchings...) is a Baldwin "Monarch" about 5-foot and = has no support beams in the belly. I think it also has a two-piece = fallboard and no markings on the plate. Oh, and it has a kinda crappy = action.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Terry Farrell</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- = </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=apfinley@yahoo.com = href="mailto:apfinley@yahoo.com">Al Finley</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 16, = 2004 11:30 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Howard Grand identification</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV> <DIV>Hi Piano Tech list. </DIV> <DIV>I would like to get your input to help me identify a piano I = worked on today.  The owners were told it was a Howard grand made by = Baldwin.  It has been rebuilt and the Howard name is not on = it anymore.  It has tuning pin bushings, no markings on the = plate as to the manufacturer, a fall board that folds back on itself and then = folds back under.  It has no support beams and is about 5' 5" but I = didn't measure it, that's just an estimate.  Could this be a = Howard?  Are there other things to look for to help identify it?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> I had my doubts because I know that Baldwin does not = have tuning pin bushings (at least not in models that I'm aware = of).  Also, I know of no models of Baldwins that do not have support beams.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>What do you think?  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Al F.</DIV></DIV> <P> <HR SIZE=1> Do you Yahoo!?<BR>Discover all that’s new in <A href="http://my.yahoo.com/">My Yahoo!</A> = </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE> <P> <HR SIZE=1> Do you Yahoo!?<BR>The <A href="http://my.yahoo.com">all-new My = Yahoo!</A> – Get yours free! </BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>