<HTML>Liszt, I have a job coming up where I'll be working on a Seiler 180(5 10" grand= ).  I'll be at it all day, easing, lubing, regulating, tuning, and voic= ing.  These are really well-built German pianos, with Renner blue hamme= rs, and full Renner actions, etc., etc. I'm sure someone on this list has experience with these pianos.  I'= ve worked on quite a few, but not to this extent.  I've tuned many, and= done minor regulations on several, but have never voiced one.  I'm act= ually surprised that nobody has asked me to voice  because there are so= me really harsh overtones that emanate from the piano above the treble break= .  I've muted some in the past by lacing felt through the strings and w= edging it under the capo bar, with some success.  The customer knows ab= out this method, but would prefer it voiced down, or so he says. My main concern in this whole deal is that I've seen the results of a te= ch trying to "voice down" that section on a different piano.  The hamme= rs are ruined.  They look like pin cushions, and sound like them too. Can anyone offer advice on the voicing of these instruments?  M. Or= obeek??  Anyone??   I've got a call in to the Seiler rep.  I'm certain he's heard this = complaint before.  I'm curious what the company has to offer in terms o= f a fix. Thanks in advance for any and all input, Dave Stahl</HTML>