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<DIV><FONT size=2>According to a fairly recent conversation I had with =
Lloyd
Meyer, Renner blues are Wurzen felt. The Renner blue is somewhat =
softer
than its European counterpart. Where Andre is needing 30 stitches =
in the
tenor, a Renner blue will need considerably less.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>David Love</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=Erwinspiano@aol.com
href="mailto:Erwinspiano@aol.com">Erwinspiano@aol.com</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> September 21, 2002 8:06 =
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: hammer felt</DIV>
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size=2 FAMILY="SERIF">In a message dated 9/21/2002 1:32:12 AM =
Pacific Daylight
Time, <A href="mailto:antares@euronet.nl">antares@euronet.nl</A>
writes:<BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
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TYPE="CITE">Subj:<B>hammer felt </B><BR>Date:9/21/2002 1:32:12 AM =
Pacific
Daylight Time<BR>From:<A
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Antares</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" =
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I believe the only hammer like this in America cost about 800 dollars =
and it
is sold by the Steinway factory. I heard a couple of sample hammers in =
a piano
and I confess I was impressed. But two hammers is not really a fair =
assesment
for me however my friend has used a couple of sets on larger =
steinways
and he loved the sounds. But 800 bucks is to rich for my blood. What =
do these
hammers cost in Europe? If it's less than half of 800 I'll try a
set.<BR>Regards<BR> Dale Erwin</FONT><FONT lang=0
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TYPE="CITE"><BR>And then I say (speaking from a long time =
experience)
:<BR><BR>Try the Renner hammers with Wurzen felt.<BR>I don't know =
about the
'Renner blues' made for the US market (maybe they are<BR>made with =
lower
tension because of your (American) way with hammer dopes)<BR>but at =
least
here in Europe the Renner hammers (with Wurzen) are the very<BR>best =
hammers
available and you find them on Bösendorfers, =
Bechsteins,<BR>Steinways
and other well known piano makers.<BR>Yamaha uses Wurzen on =
their
CFIIIS and these days even Samick in Seoul buys<BR>Wurzen =
felt.<BR><BR>The
Renner Wurzen hammers we use have the following characteristics
:<BR><BR>Nice, even tone from the beginning.<BR>Middle section needs =
some
voicing and opening up (usually around 30<BR>strokes).<BR>Lower bass =
hammers, usually the first octave, need battery voicing =
(driving<BR>up the
powers from the base of the hammers).<BR>Higher treble hammers (from =
c''' to
c'''') need battery voicing.<BR>The highest treble hammers, usually =
the last
5 or 6 hammers, need some dope<BR>to give them a little more
'ping'.<BR><BR>Just yesterday, I voiced an older baby Grotrian =
Steinweg
grand with these<BR>Renner hammers and it took me about 1 hour and =
15
minutes to needle them,<BR>file them, clean them up and apply the
dope.<BR><BR>Result :<BR>A nice, warm and even sounding Grotrian =
Steinweg
baby with a 'ping' in the<BR>high treble.<BR><BR>By looking closely =
at the
fibers of the Wurzen felt, and especially on the<BR>sides, we =
clearly see
that this felt is not just a dense, stone hard,<BR>lifeless piece of =
felt.
On the contrary, it almost seems like it was woven<BR>like a =
beautiful and
very expensive Kashmir shawl and after hearing the<BR>result, we can =
understand why, in the earlier days, the great piano makers<BR>in =
Europe
used this felt.<BR>Now that the Eastern part of Germany has been =
added to
its former halve, the<BR>factory has opened again, continuing to =
make what
they had to temporarily<BR>stop a long time ago.<BR><BR>friendly
greetings<BR>from<BR><BR>Antares,<BR><BR>Amsterdam, =
Holland<BR><BR>"where
music is, no harm can be"<BR><BR>visit my website at :
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