<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE>@page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.25in 1.0in = 1.25in; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } A:visited { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.EmailStyle17 { COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US vLink=purple link=blue bgColor=white> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Jerry, </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Without seeing the case parts and how = wide a gap / or if a thin steel can be used to work glue into the crevice, my first = thought was to remove the side panel and clean up the glue joint and re glue.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If you do this be sure to make deep = marks where the case parts go mack together as sanding may remove any pencil marks. Two = pony clamps and 2 short padded 2'X4's will be needed to draw the sides together.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Try using the clamps first thing as the = glue bond that is there may let loose allowing easier dis-assembly = <G></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The key bed can support the weight = without any damage but my next suggestion is the best and easiest if you can use it.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If there is a wide enough gap to get = glue into the crevice, my choice of glue would be Gorilla Glue. This glue expands and = will do a great job of holding the parts together without a lot of cleaning of = the surfaces to be joined. At the edges of the gap the glue may expand and = come out of the gap for the first hour, so place paper under where the glue will = ooze out. Wait a day and the excess dry glue can easily be chipped away. You = will not need to tip the piano over if you can use this glue.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>Joe Goss RPT<BR>Mother Goose Tools<BR><A href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><BR><A href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com">www.mothergoosetools.com</A></DI= V> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=emailforjc@yahoo.com = href="mailto:emailforjc@yahoo.com">Jerry Cohen</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">'Pianotech'</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 07, 2004 = 6:57 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Baldwin Hamilton loose = side panel</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV class=Section1> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Recently I = was asked to evaluate the cause of buzzing on several notes in the middle = (around middle C) on a 4 year old Baldwin Hamilton vertical 243HPA.  I found the = right side panel was loose. It looks like no or almost no glue was used, and = only screws were holding it in place. When pushing outward on the panel, = the buzzing would completely stop. The left panel is very secure and you = can see glue across the top and from top to bottom at the back where it is = glued to the back frame on that panel.</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I called = Thomas Malone at the </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">Baldwin</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> factory, = and he confirmed that sometimes workers goof, and apply very little or no = glue to the side panels.  Since this is a pre-Gibson piano, there is no warranty.</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">My question = is, what is the best way to make this repair? The side panel is attached, but I = can separate it slightly from the back frame everywhere from top to bottom = at the back. In order to get glue in, I think it would be best to tilt the = piano forward and rest it on the keybed. Can the keybed support this weight? = Also, what is the best glue to use now? Should I use epoxy, or is yellow = glue ok?  I was planning on using long pipe clamps the full width of the = piano. Getting the glue in is my biggest concern.</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Has anyone = seen this problem?  Appreciate any help.</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">Thanks.</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jerry Cohen</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">NJ chapter</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>