<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi, Don. I didn't chime in on this one = before because I knew someone like Ron N would do it for me.  Calculated odds?  I don't think that they're really necessary. Mr. Nossaman = has probably encountered something like this many times before, as have I. = In a case like this the most likely cause is that the owner, or someone the owner = knows altered the piano. Every time I see something that just looks too weird = to be true, such as this I begin to ask the owner some discreet question, and = every single time it boils down to somebody who had no business doing = something to the piano just "trying to help out."</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Kevin.</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=pianotuna@accesscomm.ca = href="mailto:pianotuna@accesscomm.ca">Don</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 18, 2003 = 9:30 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: "Tuned" Pitch = Drop</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Hi Ron,<BR><BR>Want to back up your "calculated odds" with some = reference material? Or are<BR>you just speaking "poetically".<BR><BR>Terry, if = these "unisons" were bichord plain steel wire, I'd look at the<BR>hitch = pins. How is the "friction" element on this instrument? Any chance<BR>the strings = got hung up between the pin and the Agraffe on the last tuning?<BR><BR>Perhaps = some helpful person pressed on the "sharp" string with a finger to<BR>try = to clear the unison?<BR></DIV> <DIV>Ron's original reply:<BR>><BR>>Two more of these = occurrences, and she's eligible for sainthood. Presuming <BR>>they were tuned at = pitch in the first place (forgive me, since I don't <BR>>doubt that they = were, but it IS a necessary condition), the odds of this <BR>>occurring = naturally are somewhat less than those of the piano being hit by <BR>>one or more = meteorites on each of two successive Thursdays. Not that it = <BR>>isn't possible, but you could become very rich very quickly betting against <BR>>it - assuming someone rich and foolish enough to cover the = bet. The block <BR>>isn't moving, because the paired strings on all these = unisons are different <BR>>overall lengths, and would go out of tune = differently. Same thing with <BR>>anything else moving spontaneously. There's no = rational pattern, and nature <BR>>is above all rational. That = leaves people, who often aren't. Someone broke <BR>>into her house while = she was gone and put them there. Check the VCR clock, <BR>>and see if they = changed that too.<BR>><BR>>Ron = N<BR>><BR>>_______________________________________________<BR>>p= ianotech list info: <A = href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives">http://www.ptg.org= /mailman/listinfo/pianotech</A><BR>><BR>><BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.M.T., R.P.T.<BR><BR><A = href="mailto:pianotuna@accesscomm.ca">mailto:pianotuna@accesscomm.ca</A= ><BR><A = href="http://us.geocities.com/drpt1948/">http://us.geocities.com/drpt19= 48/</A><BR><BR>3004 Grant Rd.<BR>REGINA, SK<BR>S4S 5G7<BR>306-352-3620 or = 1-888-29t-uner<BR>_______________________________________________<BR>pian= otech list info: <A = href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives">http://www.ptg.org= /mailman/listinfo/pianotech</A></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>