<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1264" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Get your mind out of the gutter = John.  It's spelled vise not vice.  Grin</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Carl Meyer Ptg assoc<BR>Santa Clara, Ca.</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca = href="mailto:jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca">John Ross</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 26, = 2003 3:56 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Baldwin pre-cut = string</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>Hi Michael,</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>Mole wrenches, are called vice grips = over here.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>Regards,</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV>John M. Ross<BR>Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada<BR><A = href="mailto:jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca">jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca</A></DIV>= <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=michael@gambles.fsnet.co.uk href="mailto:michael@gambles.fsnet.co.uk">Michael Gamble</A> = </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 23, = 2003 3:39 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Fw: Baldwin pre-cut string</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Glen & Del</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This pre-cut string is a strange = idea. I thought pianos were always strung up from, as Del says, spools of = overhead string.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>But I'd like to add a little = something a-propos the kinks or bends in string. I have a policy when tuning an old = piano, and whenever it <EM>is</EM> possible, to use the old string by simply = loosening off its companion, straightening out the old string where it had = been on the hitch, and threading it up to the old wrest-pin and tuning up. I = find that when doing this the tonal quality stays the same and they don't = stretch like a replacement new string. You just land up with maybe two coils or = less on the two wrest-pins in question. The strings eventually straighten = out pretty well. I find using a "mole-wrench" on the hitch pin a good idea to = hold the string in place while fiddling around with the loose end. Is "mole = wrench" an international term? It's an adjustable gripping tool which can = grip with incredible force if needed and is adjusted by a knurled knob = sticking out of the end of one of the handles. Good description?  = :-)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Michael G (UK)</FONT></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> = <A title=pianobuilders@olynet.com = href="mailto:pianobuilders@olynet.com">Delwin D Fandrich</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 23, 2003 5:31 PM</DIV> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: Baldwin pre-cut string</DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" = color=#000080></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000080 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- = </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=Crashvalve@aol.com href="mailto:Crashvalve@aol.com">Crashvalve@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> October 22, 2003 5:13 = AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Baldwin pre-cut = string</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT face=Geneva = color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">When I visited Conway in 73' they had precut = and straightened wire to string the verticals. I know a straighter = wire gives truer harmonics, Question is; does zig-zag roller straightening of = piano wire have any downside like false beats etc ? If rollers are good, = did Baldwin use then in two or four planes ?<BR>regards<BR>Glenn C.</FONT><FONT face=Geneva color=#000000 size=2 = FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></FONT> </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080>Unless there is a = kink in the wire, any wire stretched to 150+ lbs of tension is going to be = pretty straight. With this in mind I'm not sure what you mean when you say = "a straighter wire gives truer harmonics." </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" = color=#000080></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080>Baldwin uses = straightened and pre-cut wire simply as a manufacturing expediency. These wires are = purchased from Mapes to specification with each coming bundled in a package = of, perhaps, a hundred or so identical wires labeled for a specific = spot on a specific piano. These are then placed in one of several tubes set = up so the stringer can pull whichever specific wire is needed in sequence = as stringing progresses.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" = color=#000080></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080>The grand pianos = are strung from standard 5-lb coils in rack held above the piano.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" = color=#000080></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080>Del</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>