<html> <body> So Y'all- If I'm reading this right, within only a few posts, we've been able to distill Robin Hufford's latest effort to its essence: Grrrrr....... Dysfunctionality is tragic.   To me, the only question should have been, "where and when?" (Hufford) <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite> What follows will be a synoptic treatment of this entire question which will be published in substantially greater detail later this year, elsewhere.  </blockquote> I think RicB's honest attempt to express appreciation for Robin's thoughtful post resorted, quite unnecessarily and detrimentally, to provocative and gratuitous characterizations: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite> the Ron, Del, and Ron show... with supporting roles played by Terry and Dale. I ...believe they are just under the influence of the other three, as there has been really no alternative for them. So I am greatfull that you are able to take the time.  recognize gaping holes in some of the ideas presented by these three. Really, one does not even need much depth in this regard to recognize that something is adrift. The general fervour and zealous nature of their argumentation, despite obvious historical facts persuant to how the public in general views pianos and the sounds they project are enough.</blockquote> The ultimate disservice of these references in what was intended to be an expression of support, would have, with a little reflection, been obvious, and avoidable. RicB...I share your enthusiasm and curiosity for Robin's ideas.  I wish I had more background with which to assimilate the information.  Why not entertain the possibility that even Del and Ron might be curious?   Any further posting under this subject line should relate to the original material, it seems to me.  Even then, if Robin is working on a more detailed presentation, trying to engage him in secondary discussion might be distractive.  I, myself, would welcome some direction in source reading that would prepare me to better understand what he's talking about.  Wide awake when I shouldn't be... David Skolnik At 12:56 AM 1/27/2005 -0600, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>> Ah, someone is awake. Thank you David. Actually, a number of us are quite wide awake, thank you very much. What should be clear from all of the postings on these variously related threads is that no one person has all the answers; and, further, that, collectively we all know more than we can possibly know severally.  Whether one agrees with what is published to the list is relatively inconsequential.  What does matter is the exchange of ideas, concepts and experience. Horace</blockquote> Good. Then in the spirit of exchange of ideas, concepts, and experience, I expect you'll be explaining how the tuning fork on the rim relates to piano tone production any time now. Ron N _______________________________________________ pianotech list info: <a href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives" eudora="autourl">https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</a> </blockquote></body> </html>