<html> <body> Richard and others, Since I haven't seen this posted, I'll go where angels fear to tread! :-) I've been using that tilter for 30+ yrs. and have never had to strap anything down. Just pull the tilter back a little bit until it contacts the pedal board, then, keeping that pressure on, pull back on the top of the piano and tilt it on back! The important thing is to keep that contact between the tilter and the pedal board. I've never had a problem doing it that way!   The reverse is also true when setting it back up! I do agree with the comments by Joe and others about the smaller pianos. I'm referring mainly to the big tall uprights! Avery At 07:37 AM 5/14/05, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Thanks Dave, I was thinking about using long plastic tiewraps. <dl> <dd>-------------- Original message from Dave Davis <dave@davispiano.com>: -------------- <dd>Hi Rick, <dd>  <dd>A console is a nice size to start with. The trick is to keep the back casters from rolling away from the tilter both as the piano leaves the floor and as it touches down again. For a little insurance you can buy one of those $5 ratchet straps from the hardware store, run it around a couple of back posts and secure the tilter to the piano. <dd>  <dd>I think the April 2005 Journal, page 17 has some pics. <dd>  <dd>Have fun, <dd>Dave Davis, RPT <dd>richard.ucci@att.net wrote: <dl> <dd>Hi list, <dd>Just got a piano tilter from Schaff . Anyone have any tips ?  I'm ca glueing a small 50's console's pinblock tomorrow . <dd>  <dd>Thanks, <dd>Rick Ucci/Ucci Piano <dd>  </dl> </dl></blockquote></body> </html>