<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2716.2200" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Your numbers are quite different from = Sanderson's, yet you say it works and I do not doubt what you say. So what is going = on here? Why would both work? What factors here are critical and which are not critical?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>New question, since you have the SATIII = with the built in program for the raise, why not just use that? What do you get = when you do, compared to hand calculations like yours or the good = doctor's?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Alan</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=imatunr@srvinet.com href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">Joe = And Penny Goss</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 21, = 2002 9:46 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Pitch Raises ... = Multiple Passes?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Kevin,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If the bass is about 30 cents flat I = want to raise the note about three cents sharp ( about 10% ) of pitch. So = with a SATlll that raises the pitch 25%  that would result in too much = over pull for me so I will set the over pull for 12 cents and roll the program = into the machine.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I take only one measurement at A2 to = arrive at my over pull. Works very well for me.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I use the 25% in the tenor and about = C4 the 30% to the top then retune.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>On pianos 25% or less flat or sharp I = use the Verituner 100 and its 10% bass, 30% tenor,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and 36% treble and = retune.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>Joe Goss<BR><A href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><BR><A = href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com">www.mothergoosetools.com</A></DI= V> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=ramsey@extremezone.com = href="mailto:ramsey@extremezone.com">Kevin E. Ramsey</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 21, = 2002 7:40 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Pitch Raises ... = Multiple Passes?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>><BR>>     All wound strings: 1/5 = (Example: You test 10 notes, or so, and find<BR>them<BR>> about 30 cents = flat. You would set your ETD to +6 cents sharp and tune<BR>those<BR>> = strings to that setting.)<BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>    Here's another = little brain saver:  What if you're pitch raising a piano and want to do a = 20% overpull in the bass, and it's, say, 28 cent's flat. (let's see, one = fifth of twenty eight would be ......... ah........ ah........)  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>    Take 28, and = double it for 56. Move the decimal point over to the left one = place. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>     5.6 is = 1/20th of 28. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>    At least, that's = how I do it. </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>