<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 5.50.4913.1100" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>    Bill, </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>    This is a Steinway M = from 1995. Looks brand new; no string grooves to speak of, knuckles perfect, case = perfect, I suspect it saw light playing infrequently for most of it's life. = Wasn't Susan's article about an SD-10? Thanks for the feedback, = though.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=Bdshull@AOL.COM = href="mailto:Bdshull@AOL.COM">Bdshull@AOL.COM</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 05, 2002 = 11:02 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Front Duplex</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi, Kevin:<BR><BR>How old is this piano?  Does it = get some hard playing?   I think that <BR>work-hardening of the = string at the "V" bar is responsible for most zinging <BR>(agraffe zinging may be = different, like on the "L" I had today).  Killer <BR>octave V bar zinging is = best fixed either by replacing strings or by <BR>re-positioning the string = on the V bar - not sideways, but fore and aft by <BR>turning the tuning pins, = as in Susan Kline's excellent Journal article a <BR>couple of years = ago.  I discovered this many years ago when I did this on a <BR>"C" and the = zings went away and the tone bloomed.  <BR><BR>I don't like messing with the = V bar.  It has surface hardening, which <BR>reshaping may cut through;  any good derived is short-lived.  The problem is = <BR>the string, which has gotten too hard at the V bar.<BR><BR>Bill Shull, RPT<BR><BR><BR>In a message dated 3/5/02 5:37:41 PM Pacific Standard = Time, <BR><A = href="mailto:ramsey@extremezone.com">ramsey@extremezone.com</A> writes:<BR><BR><< I have a question for the list.<BR> <BR>     What exactly is the proper = fix for the "singing of the Steinway Angels"<BR> in the front tuned = duplex, that is, when they get a little too carried = away?<BR>     I had a customer today which was complaining about a kind of = papery<BR> noise on a few notes in the killer octave (naturally) area of the keyboard.<BR> It was a Steinway M. It wasn't until it was tuned = fully that the problem<BR> became apparent to me. By that time all the = other stuff had been cleared up<BR> enough to hear. The front duplexes = on some of the long waste end notes had a<BR> kind of zing to them.<BR>     What I did to try to get rid of them = was to level the strings really<BR> well while also lifting up on the = duplex side of the capo bar to get a solid<BR> seating on both sides of = it. When I got done there was still a little noise<BR> there, so I had to = do some needling near the crown.<BR>     Is what I did = correct? Is there a better way? Am I missing something<BR> here? It worked = this time. I really don't like the idea of muting the front<BR> duplex = unless I have exhausted every other recourse first. Of course, I<BR> don't like = having to deal with these kind of issues on a piano which = the<BR> customer paid so much money for, = either.<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> Kevin E. Ramsey<BR> <A href="mailto:ramsey@extremezone.com">ramsey@extremezone.com</A> >></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>