<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=US-ASCII"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2802" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=role_body style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial" bottomMargin=7 leftMargin=7 topMargin=7 rightMargin=7><FONT id=rol= e_document face=Arial color=#000000 size=2> <DIV> <DIV> <FONT size=3> HI Ed</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>  By the way thanks for the usual & thoro &nbsp= ;in depth reply.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>  Dale Erwin</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><= FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 size= =2>Inre False Beating, Dale writes: <BR><< Or as I said in my previous post = that nothing you do  short of changing <BR>the <BR>false, overly stretched= & deformed string  will help. Any body out there <BR>tried <BR>th= is remedy? Or are we only going to  consider the bridge pin /ca gule oti= on? <BR>>><BR><BR>       I have replaced strings tha= t were beating so falsely that I couldn't <BR>tune them, and the brand new w= ire had the same problem!   I have taken the <BR>bridge pins out and= renotched and repinned a note on a bridge and put the old wire <BR>back up= to tension and the falseness was gone. I assume I didn't pull the <BR>wire ba= ck exactly to its original position, so there had to be some deformity in <BR= >the speaking lengths.  Didn't seem to matter.  The note was far clea= ner than <BR>before.  <BR>      I have gotten the same res= ults from everything I have tried with false <BR>beating strings.  Seating= the strings with a very light tap sometimes makes a <BR>big change, and someti= mes nothing.  Sometimes a tap on the bridge pin solves <BR>all problems.  Sometimes new wire helps.  <BR>      I= have several high notes on a concert piano here that are untuneable. = <BR>When I address this over the break, I will not waste time on trying to= see <BR>what particular remedy works.  The first thing to try is one drop= of super thin <BR>CA at the base of the bridge pin.  Not because this ha= s any historical weight <BR>behind it, but rather, because for the investmen= t of time, this gives, by far, <BR>the best chance the falseness will stop.&nbs= p; If that doesn't help, then I go <BR>ahead and do everything.  <BR>&nb= sp;      I will, instead, check the bearing, remove the wire an= d renotch.  I <BR>will either repin the bridge for that note or treat t= he wood before driving the <BR>originals back it.  I will inspect as wel= l as fondle the capo bar, searching <BR>for anything amiss.  I restring it.  If it still sounds like before, I check <BR>for nearly sympathet= ic lengths in the backscale.  Sometimes there is a need to <BR>"detune" = an aliquot's note, which I do with a slight kink in the duplex length. <BR>I = tune it around some, seeing what extraneous woes can be cancelled by <BR>contro= lled mis-tuning. <BR>      Then I move on, no need being a damn = fool about it.  False beats are a <BR>fact of a tuners life.  They ta= ke more of a toll on the beginning tuner <BR>seeking perfection than the olde= r one who knows when to quit.  <BR><BR>Hope all have a happy Christmas,= Kwanzaa, Hanukah, whatever boat you are <BR>floating in.    <BR><BR>Ed Foote RPT <BR>http://www.uk-piano.org/edfoote/index.html<BR>www.uk-piano.org/edfoote= /well_tempered_piano.html<BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML>