<HTML>In a message dated 12/28/= 00 8:28:25 AM Central Standard Time, Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no= (Richard Brekne) writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-= LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Weve said this a million ti= mes... there is such a thing as a delete button. We dont HAVE to respond to anything really... or do we ?</BLOCKQUOTE> No, Richard, they don't have to respond.  I have asked them off lis= t not to do so, to just delete my posts if they are disturbed at the ver= y sight of my name but apparently, they enjoy doing the very thing they = are complaining about. My prediction is that not a single one of them, the ones who complain by= filling the list with off topic material but who *could* provide useful= information or opinions, will do so.  I hope that I am proven wron= g.  But I don't think I will be.  It will demonstrate that the= se people really want the List to be a chatroom for piano techs in which= detailed information and in depth discussion of opposing opinions is NO= T what they want. The trouble with the one that spouts the poetry or philosophy is that it= is virtually never connected to anything useful.  I read and trans= late poetry avidly.  I enjoy it immensely but it is not really appr= opriate for this list unless it is used to underscore some point being m= ade.  It has instead been used here as I've outlined before. So, all of these people *could* offer Ola, Phil and others who have ques= tions about hammer technique or tuning hammer types opinions that would = be useful. Instead, the topic is never addressed or is replied to with a= joke such as "Newton has a 3 foot one for that". Horace represented himself to me as the great "teacher" when he came to = Madison to give a demonstration at a seminar and right here on this List= , while attempting to thoroughly put me down and in my place described h= imself as a "*real* concert tuner".  If that is so, he must have ha= d experience with all types of tuning hammers and techniques, the way he= claims to have had experience with all kinds of temperaments, and has, = at this time in his mature life, formed a strong, soundly based opinion = on which is best and can explain in detail why. But he won't, I can assure you.  Just the way he didn't with the te= mperament issue.  He didn't really have an answer, only a posture a= nd so he resorted to words that you could hear from any bum on the stree= t corner, not being able to quote any poetry or philosophy to underscore= his beliefs.  Now, I gave some of my opinions in detail and have m= ore that I can add.  But if I do, I will of course be trying to be = the "know-it-all", writing posts that are "too long" and inflammatory. Bill Bremmer RPT Madison, Wisconsin</HTML>