<html> Hi Keith,                   Just heat them with a big soldering iron, it works for me. Roger At 04:27 AM 9/5/02 -0700, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>The front rail pins being rusty around the base and swollen are so tight they are hard to even turn much less pull out. They are not drilled all the way through so removing the key frame and driving them out from the bottom is not an option. Any tricks? I am an ex plumber/pipefitter so I KNOW brute strength and dumb luck. I'm considering using my right angle drill. Since the pins are oval I shouldn't have to tighten up the chuck much to get them spinning. Keith R</blockquote> </html>