<HTML style="FONT-SIZE: medium; FONT-FAMILY: Courier New"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2668" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#d8d0c8> <DIV>John,</DIV> <DIV>If you take a small file and make a slight indent to catch the strings, they will stay put.  You do insert them under the hammers don't you?</DIV> <DIV>Warren</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV>Warren Fisher- Navy Retired - Slidell, Louisiana </DIV> <DIV>98 2500 Dodge Cummins TD, DTT Auto, Smart Controller, E-Brake, ATF, EGT, and Boost gauges, Mag Hytec tranny and differential pans, Aux. tranny cooler, 4" exhaust, monster air filter, engine 125 hp upgrade.</DIV> <DIV>02 Titanium fiver 28E33, aerodynamic front end, 2-120W solr panls, Friendship 2000 invrtr, </DIV> <DIV>four Lifeline absorbed glass mat battries, Honda 5000 genset</DIV> <DIV> </DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca href="mailto:jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca">John Ross</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 7/1/2005 12:58:34 PM </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: A real West Virginia piano</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>Speaking of Papp's mutes, I have trouble, having them stay between the strings when they are new.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>I was thinking of trying a piece of the hooked side of the Velcro on it, to grab the hammer rail felt, to hold it in place.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>Any other ideas?</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>I seem to remember someone saying they used two, for doing the centre strings.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>I thought that was their main advantage, that with the spring, they allowed the centre string to sound, using just one.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>Another thing about the Papp's mute, the blue material seems to wear out much faster than the original white stuff. Needs replacing about once a year, now.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>I tried a film of C/A on the end, and that seems to increase the lifespan somewhat.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV>John M. Ross<BR>Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada<BR><A href="mailto:jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca">jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca</A></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=michael@gambles.fsnet.co.uk href="mailto:michael@gambles.fsnet.co.uk">Michael Gamble</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=741662027@theshusters.org href="mailto:741662027@theshusters.org">Cy Shuster</A> ; <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 01, 2005 2:15 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: A real West Virginia piano</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Cy</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>After all this time I find upright pianos being referred to on the List! I though you all had S&S, M&H, Yam grands only in US! </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I use a Papps wedge only on uprights. I find the rubber fiddly to get in between the strings in a hurry!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards from a rainy evening in Sussex</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Michael G.(UK)</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=741662027@theshusters.org href="mailto:741662027@theshusters.org">Cy Shuster</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 01, 2005 5:37 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> A real West Virginia piano</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>At first, I thought this black, powdery stuff was mold -- but there was no rust on the strings, and it was only on the tops of the hammers.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>As I dared to touch it, a train went rumbling by (100 yards or more away), and the light bulb came on: very fine coal dust!  Finally, an environment that is *beneficial* to a piano!  :-)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>--Cy Shuster--</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Bluefield, WV</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>