<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" link="#0000EE" vlink="#551A8B" alink="#FF0000"> <blockquote TYPE=CITE>  I agree with Jim.  You need to demonstrate that you can tune a piano to Standard Pitch within a reasonable tolerance.  Also, a professional is expected to have an accurate pitch source.  That professional should also know how to calibrate the pitch source whether it is a fork or some other device.  </blockquote> Of course this needs to be demonstrated. That is not been questioned. Only the matter of when and where during the examination process is under fire. It is my position that the issue should be dealt with earlier on in the process. <blockquote TYPE=CITE>  I believe it is quite fair and appropriate to expect that a professional piano technician should be able to tune a single string to within 3 cents of Standard Pitch in a time limit of 10 minutes.  As Jim says and may I add, if the Examinee cannot do that much that well, how could it be expected that the same person would be able to tune an accurate temperament, octaves and unisons to a reasonable tolerance with reasonable stability?  </blockquote> But there are two entirebly seperate things going on here. One is to be able to match the string to the pitch source. If a person can do that then the rest of this argumentation (taken by many) falls through. The other is the accuracy of the pitch source. Let me put it this way. If the examinee can accurately match the piano to the pitch source, demonstrate a suberb temperament at that pitch, and perform an outstandingly even tuning at that pitch, what on earth is the point of flunking him ????? Especially over a matter that can be delt with from both a pedogogik and an examination point of view in a matter of a few minutes. I am sorry, but if this situation has occured, or could occure... then I do not concur <grin>   <blockquote TYPE=CITE>  Once again, I have seen from a couple of people a kind of anxiety that is way out of proportion to the reality of the situation.  I'll bet that both of you could set your A4 to within tolerance in a matter of seconds with whatever pitch source you have and without even bothering to calibrate it, just as I could by whipping out my $3.00 tuning fork, striking it and matching the pitch with a stroke or two of my tuning hammer.  So don't worry about it, just do it!</blockquote> I do indeed hope this is the case. And if so I would like to point out to those who have partaken in the discussion that this matter has over-worried (unneccessarily so) many a greenback. <blockquote TYPE=CITE>  Bill Bremmer RPT Madison, Wisconsin</blockquote> By the way Bill... grin.. hows it going ??? Nice to hear from you as always Richard Brekne I.C.P.T.G.  N.P.T.F. Bergen, Norway </body> </html>