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LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I would submit that if the =
jack rail was causing key travel to stop as
<BR>12 - 20 mm from the front rail cushions, then you'd have one whale of a
<BR>lot of broken jacks. The first time you play a bit hard you the jack
<BR>centers would be so stressed that jacks would easily break there. =
I
<BR>mentioned something similiar with the damper wires earlier on...
<BR>Anything like this being responsible for stopping key travel in midair
<BR>as it were would have to be able to handle the stress of hard play as
<BR>well... or parts will break.
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<BR>Keith is right about one thing tho.... whatever the problem is it will
<BR>be painfully obvious when first noticed.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" =
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<BR>Ric, David,
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<BR>The more I think about it, the more I doubt that it's the jack stop rail=
. As Ric says, that would not account for the ridiculous amount of dip=
, and would cause jack breakage.
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<BR>The more I think about this--and it's been far too much in recent days--=
the more I'm thinking that it's either capstan position as Jon Page suggeste=
d, or a really poorly assembled piano, or both.
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<BR>There is not much damper pedal travel on this piano, and the dampers don=
't lift high enough off the strings with use of pedal or with key stroke. &n=
bsp;I will check damper stop rail, but that still doesn't account for the ke=
ydip.
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<BR>Perhaps the balance rail was positioned too far back towards the action =
when the piano was assembled...? Quality control at that factory in th=
ose days was not optimal, so nothing would surprise me here! Nor would=
it surprise me if the problem was something terribly obvious.
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<BR>I'm gonna go play with my action model.
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<BR>Dave Stahl
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<BR>Original post:
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<BR>>>I've got some regulation problems on a 50 inch Mason upright fro=
m the 70s. I've worked on other Aeolian uprights of that vintage, and =
some of them have the same problem.
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<BR>The initial problem was that the keys weren't bottoming out on punchings=
. It seems that it's been that way since new(though they bought it use=
d). There was a huge gap between the bottom of the key and the punchin=
g when the key was depressed. This led to hammers blocking, bobbling, =
and a feel that could only be described as spongy.
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<BR>At my last visit, I added punchings, and improved the feel somewhat, but=
some of the bobbling is still there. I also had to increase letoff di=
stance in some areas of the keyboard an unacceptable amount to get it to wor=
k without hammers blocking against strings.
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<BR>I think that the main problem is that the key height is too great.  =
;It was somewhere around 70mm, though I forgot to write it down. More =
precise measurements are necessary, and they will be forthcoming after my ne=
xt visit there in January. Blow distance is at 1 7/8(the only thing in=
the piano that seems at spec...:-), but it doesn't seem to be enough.
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<BR>I tried lowering the key height on a few sample keys by removing balance=
rail punchings, but there was nowhere near enough aftertouch. Should =
I try increasing blow distance to 2 inches or more? Any ideas???  =
;Haaalp??
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<BR>Any input is welcome,
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<BR>Dave Stahl</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" BACK="#ffffff" style="BACK=
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