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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks for the thoughts given so far. I will
attempt to achieve a "quiet mind" and then go after the false beats again in a
more methodical manner. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dave Smith</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>SW FL</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>PTG Associate</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=pmc303@ricochet.com href="mailto:pmc303@ricochet.com">Paul
McCloud</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">'Pianotech'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: False Beats in high treble
after stringing</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You might check to
see how much downbearing there is over the bridge. A rocker gauge may
not show it, but a bubble gauge or other more sophisticated tool will.
It’s likely that there isn’t much downbearing in that area. I rebuilt a
Ste. M some time ago, and was similarly disappointed with the result, with all
the false beats and such. I used CA instead of your epoxy, but did all
the same things to get rid of the false beats, to no avail. When I used
my </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Lowell</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> gauge to check that
area, there wasn’t much downbearing at all. I had to let it go at
that. FWIW.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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Paul McCloud</SPAN></FONT></P>
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pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Keith McGavern<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, June 10, 2003 6:07
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Pianotech<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: False Beats in high treble
after stringing</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">At 9:09 PM -0400 6/9/03, Dave Smith
wrote:</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">... Can anyone offer me advice
on what to do next to reduce the false beats, short of unstringing and
recapping bridge, etc? I would appreciate your
help!</SPAN></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Dave,</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I am no expert in this area, but will
offer some thoughts has to how I would attempt to troubleshoot this matter in
my mind.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">To hopefully discover the
cause:</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">1) pick the worst
offender</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">2) mute the non-speaking sections of that
offender, listen.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">3) if false beat still there, determine
that there is side and down bearing</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">4) if there is, determine that the string
equally leaves the both the bridge pin and the bridge</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">5) if it does, determine that there is
absolutely no movement in the bridge pin</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">6) if all these prove to be okay and the
false beat has not dissipated, the way the string contacts the pressure bar is
certainly a possibility for inducing a false beat.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">7) And if after verifying all these
conditions are as they should be, replacing the string is another
option.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">You might not be able to eliminate all of
the false beats, but it is very possible they can be blended so that no one
false beat stands out above the others. When tuning pianos in the field,
blending is utilized by me quite often to mask inherent discrepancies that
will never be properly addressed.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">These are my thoughts on the matter,
Dave, on chasing down the worst offending false beat
situation.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Rest easy in this matter. Frustration in
not the master, you are.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Keith
McGavern</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>