<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2769" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>Thanks, Joe.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>I see it, I just never thought of how it worked.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>I had always been satisfied with the Papp's mute, till the 'blue' ones came out.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV>John M. Ross<BR>Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada<BR><A href="mailto:jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca">jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca</A></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=imatunr@srvinet.com href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">Joe And Penny Goss</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:29 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Papp's Treble Mute</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi John,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Page 33   #204 Treble mute.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I also modify the tip so that it is a little thinner both ways. A belt sanderworks great. The tip is about 1/4" wide, I trim it to 1/2 of that. And then make the taper of the two tips narrower so that they will fit into the unison better to mute either two outside strings using either the long or short side.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There is a knack to using the mute quickly.To straddle the outside strings to tune the middle I place both legs between two unisons, put slight pressure on themute so that as you draw it slowly out the short leg pops over the unison to the other side. Slide home and tune the center.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To help keep the mute in place tuning the center string, place the mute as high as possible on the strings. Next put both feet on the left side of the unison and tune the right string to the center. To tune the right string , straddle the next unison on the left.  Continue in a like pattern until the break.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Here I usually tune the far right string, center to right, and left to the unison, unless I hear false strings or other noise, then it is what is needed to get a clean sound if possible.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I do have the mutes made up but do not have them listed on the site.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>Joe Goss RPT<BR>Mother Goose Tools<BR><A href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><BR><A href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com">www.mothergoosetools.com</A></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca href="mailto:jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca">John Ross</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 30, 2005 3:48 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Papp's Treble Mute</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>Hi Joe,</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>What catalogue, is the split rubber mute in, and the number, please?</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV>John M. Ross<BR>Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada<BR><A href="mailto:jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca">jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca</A></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=imatunr@srvinet.com href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">Joe And Penny Goss</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 30, 2005 6:33 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Papp's Treble Mute</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi John, </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The rubber split mute works on the same idea as the Papp mute.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Seldom shakes out, but when it does, washing the dust off seems to solve the problem.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I do however keep the split mute and a wide bass mute tethered together as my aching back tends to complain a lot when I have to get down under the key bed and look for a dislodged mute. <O:((</FONT></DIV> <DIV>Joe Goss RPT<BR>Mother Goose Tools<BR><A href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><BR><A href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com">www.mothergoosetools.com</A></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca href="mailto:jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca">John Ross</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 30, 2005 12:51 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Papp's Treble Mute</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>Am I the only one, having problems with the product supplied over the last few years?</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>My original, white plastic one, lasted years.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>I have had 3 of the 'blue' ones. </FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>They are too soft, the hinge pins drop out, they are too flexible, and jump out of the strings as you tune, and they wear out too fast. </FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>The wearing out, might have something to do with older pianos, and the strings being contaminated ( mild surface corrosion) and being more abrasive. Mind you, the older one lasted longer, same pianos.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>I am thinking, of adapting my old white one, to take new tips that screw on.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>John M. Ross<BR>Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada<BR><A href="mailto:jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca">jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca</A></FONT></STRONG></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>