<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <body bgcolor="#B8B8B8"> Joe, <p>I'm not describing a tapered tuning pin, with which I'm familiar, but rather one which has two different diameters:  one (either 1/0 or 2/0, for example) from the top to a point just below the coils, and the other (4/0, for example) for the rest of its length. <p>Paul <p>Joseph Garrett wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE><style></style> <font size=+1>Paul,</font><font size=+1>Many years ago, Piano Manufacturers actually used a tuning pin like you describe. It is called a tapered tuning pin. They had many advantages. One of which is, slight tapping of one that is considered loose, fixed the problem. These pins were approx. #1 pin size at the bottom and approx. 3/0 at the top. (that is not a typo: #1 tuning pin dia.=.265"). Hope this clarifies for you.</font><font size=+1>Regards,</font><font size=+1>Joe Garrett, R.P.T.</font> <blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----</div> <div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:larudee@pacbell.net" title="larudee@pacbell.net">larudee@pacbell.net</a></div> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" title="pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a></div> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 14, 2001 7:40 AM</div> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: Ditch the tuning pin bushings</div>  Del & David, <p>What about a tuning pin that is oversize from just under the coils down and size 1/0 or 2/0 from there up?  That would give added stiffness to the pin in the portion that passes through the webbing without sacrificing the better torque and smaller string coils that you get with standard size pins.  It also allows reuse of the old pin block (if it is in good condition) while still retaining the benefits of standard size pins.  (David Love and David Ilvedson know that I have a special reason for asking this question.) <p>Paul Larudee <br>  <br>  <p>David Skolnik wrote: <blockquote TYPE="CITE"> At 11:22 PM 05/13/2001 -0700, you wrote: <br>  <blockquote class=cite cite type="cite">Another thought though; someone mentioned to me the problem of restringing <br>with <u>oversize</u> pins -- something I'd not really thought about since we don't <br>do this. <p>Del</blockquote> Del- <br>Could you make clear what size pin qualifies as "oversized", assuming that 2/0 was the original?  Thanks. <p>David Skolnik <br>  <br>  <br> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </body> </html>