<HTML><HEAD> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2715.400" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>I prefer to send the measurements of hitch pin to forward bridge pin and hitch pin to agraffe, as well as the core and outer diameters of each string, or pair of strings.  I want the windings to be as close to the agraffe and bridge pin as possible (1/2").  If the winding termination is not consistently or accurately done on the old set, you will just get a duplication of that pattern.  Good string makers can tell from the bends where those points are, but I prefer to give precise measurements.  </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2> <DIV>David Love</DIV> <DIV><A href="mailto:davidlovepianos@earthlink.net">davidlovepianos@earthlink.net</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=Wimblees@aol.com href="mailto:Wimblees@aol.com"></A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 3/28/2003 5:27:18 AM </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Breakdown measurements</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 3/28/03 11:31:44 AM Central Standard Time, kpiano@goldrush.com writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE">Do I need the distance from the upper or front bridge pin to the hitch pin? What backscale dimension would the scale designer find necessary? The plate bearing points? </FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">   On the plain tri-cords do I need any more than just the speaking length and wire size?</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR>  <BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Keith Roberts</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR>Keith<BR><BR>The best and easiest thing to do is to send the bass strings to a company that duplicates them. Be sure they stay in order. Cut them off at the tuning pin. When you send them the set, be sure to include the name and serial number of the piano. <BR><BR>If you don't want to send the strings, you can make a paper pattern. It's a little more difficult to do on an upright. The pattern should include indentations of where the tuning pins are, the agraffs or upper hitch pins, the windings, both at the top and the bottom of the strings, the bridge pins, and the hitch pins. Again, on the pattern, write the name and serial number of the piano. <BR><BR>If you don't want to use either one of those methods, you can give them the dimensions of the first bass string and the last bass string, including the thickness of the core, and the measurements you indicated. It's a lot more work on your part, and you run the risk that you didn't write down the correct measurements. I would do this only as a last resort. <BR><BR>As far as the plain wires, all you need is s the scale. Measure each string, and indicate how many notes to a string size. You don't need any other measurement, like the distance between the hitch pin and the bridge, etc. <BR><BR>As far a rescaling, that's up to you. It might be more trouble than it's worth, especially on an older upright, unless you are convinced the scaling needs to be different. In 25 years of rebuilding, I have never rescaled a piano. I made one up once, when I got a piano without any strings. <BR><BR>Wim </FONT></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>