<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1515" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Matthew,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Key surface preparation and 'tack = time' are important. I generaly lay glue to 5 or 6 prepaired keys..test the first = one,seat keytop</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2> and adjust the timing = from there. Lay glue to the next sequence and move the first 5 or 6 keys aside (in = order) it goes quickly once you get the timing right. Reread Jeannies post (if i = may call her by her first name) our technique may vary slightly,however = follow her sage advice.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hubert</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV>Maybe I am not waiting for the glue to dry a little before = attaching the top.  I will try that!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thank you,<BR>Matthew<BR><BR><B><I>Jeannie Grassi <<A = href="mailto:jcgrassi@earthlink.net">jcgrassi@earthlink.net</A>></I>= </B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px = solid"> <META content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered)" name=Generator> <STYLE>@font-face { font-family: Tahoma; } @font-face { font-family: Calisto MT; } @font-face { font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light; } @page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } A:visited { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } P { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; FONT-FAMILY: = "Times New Roman" } SPAN.EmailStyle18 { COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial } SPAN.EmailStyle19 { FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: blue; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: = "Calisto MT"; TEXT-DECORATION: none } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } </STYLE> <DIV class=Section1> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Calisto MT" color=blue = size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calisto = MT'">Matthew,</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Calisto MT" color=blue = size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calisto = MT'">The beauty of PVC-E is not having to clamp.  I have been doing keytops = with it for many years and never had a problem.  You may have told us this = already, but I’ll ask again, how are you preparing the key surface?  = If it isn’t planed smoothly, you might have problems.  Also, sometimes it = is necessary to apply a preliminary sealer coat of glue to the key and = then a second coat for gluing.  Wait for it to dry a little and slide = the keytop on, applying a little pressure.  Hold it for a few = seconds and then set it aside.  I think the problem is not the glue, but = perhaps your method.  Keep experimenting.  Like most things in = this business, practice makes perfect.  Very seldom are we = successful on the first few attempts.</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Calisto MT" color=blue = size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calisto = MT'">jeannie</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Calisto MT" color=blue = size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calisto = MT'"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Copperplate Gothic Light" = color=blue size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Copperplate = Gothic Light'">Jeannie Grassi, RPT</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Copperplate Gothic Light" = color=blue size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Copperplate = Gothic Light'">Assistant Editor, Piano Technicians Journal</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=blue = size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue"><A href="mailto:jcgrassi@earthlink.net"><FONT face="Copperplate = Gothic Light" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Copperplate Gothic = Light'">mailto:jcgrassi@earthlink.net</SPAN></FONT></A></SPAN></FONT></P>= </DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Calisto MT" color=blue = size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calisto = MT'"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-ALIGN: = center" align=center><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <HR tabIndex=-1 align=center width="100%" SIZE=3> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT = face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: = Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: = Tahoma"> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] = <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Matthew = Todd<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, September 23, = 2005 6:56 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Pianotech<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: = bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: Key Clamps</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT = face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT = face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I am using PVC-E, but it = appears I still need to clamp...unless I want to hold each key tightly for 5 = minutes after applying the new top.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT = face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: = 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT = face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Matthew<BR><BR><B><I><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">"Paul Chick = (Earthlink)" <tune4@earthlink.net></SPAN></I></B> = wrote:</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: = medium none; MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; PADDING-LEFT: 3pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; = PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 3pt; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 1.5pt solid; = PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT = face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT = face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: = Tahoma">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; = FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Key Clamps</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT = face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT = face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hi = everyone,</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT = face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: = 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT = face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I will be doing my third = set of keytop replacement soon (don't worry, they're all on practice pianos!).</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT = face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: = 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT = face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I did the first two sets = without clamping.  I would like to do this next set with clamps to = see the difference.  Any ideas?</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT = face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: = 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT = face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: = 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT = face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thank you!<BR>Matthew</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT = face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT = face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">If you’re installing molded plastic key tops, stick with PVC-E glue = and you won’t have to bother with clamps.  If one needs to be = “clamped,” a piece of masking tape will do.</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT = face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT = face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">Paul C</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" = size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: = 12pt">__________________________________________________<BR>Do You Yahoo!?<BR>Tired of spam? 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