<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML style="FONT-SIZE: x-small; FONT-FAMILY: MS Sans Serif"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2722" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE>@font-face { font-family: Tahoma; } @page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } A:visited { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } P { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; FONT-FAMILY: = "Times New Roman" } SPAN.EmailStyle17 { COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US style="BORDER-TOP-STYLE: none; BORDER-RIGHT-STYLE: none; = BORDER-LEFT-STYLE: none; BORDER-BOTTOM-STYLE: none" vLink=purple link=blue bgColor=white> <DIV><FONT face=Arial> <DIV><EM>As to the idea of a one-pass 100 cent raise .... I can't = imagine a 100 cent raise then a fine tune and out the door, stability wise. Maybe = you've got your pitch raise and hammer techniques more refined than I do, but for = anything over about 30 cents, I'm inclined to raise pitch, rough tune, fine = tune.  -?-</EM></DIV> <DIV><EM></EM> </DIV> <DIV>Well, first of all, most large pitch raises utilizing a good = ETD correctly, will get you fairly close to target. And sure, a tuning pass = after that will have compromises, but I figure no matter what you do = tuning-wise in that situation, you aren't going to have a very stable tuning anyway. In = such a situation I also give the piano owner an explanation regarding relative = tuning instability related to the pitch raise and that next tuning (within 6 = months) should produce a better tuning and a more stable tuning.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So often the folks have been listening to this = not-tuned-in-30-years piano for a long time. I've never had anyone complain about the results, and = I've had a number of folks do backflips over how they just can't believe how = fabulous their 1948 Lester spinet sounds!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>IMHO, a reasonable approach to a very imperfect situation.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Terry Farrell</DIV></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=tune4u@earthlink.net = href="mailto:tune4u@earthlink.net">Alan Barnard</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 12, = 2005 11:43 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Overpulls was Re: = Best Tuning Strategy using SAT III</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV> <DIV>Terry asked: "<FONT face=Arial>If I understand you = correctly, you tune the piano to A440 by ear and then use an ETD and do a pitch = raise? Why not just use the ETD in the first place? Isn't that what it's for? = Maybe I don't understand</FONT>"</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'll explain, others might be in the same boat.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>When I use the ETD, my pukingly persistent predeliction for perfectionism takes over and I just have to stop the lights. = So for the example given, where accuracy isn't the issue, but speed is, I can = go faster just setting a rough temperament, then octaves up and down = using only fifths as checks (double octaves or arpeggiated chords in the = upper treble). Am I unique, or just weird. (Please don't answer. <G>)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As to the idea of a one-pass 100 cent raise .... I can't imagine = a 100 cent raise then a fine tune and out the door, stability wise. Maybe = you've got your pitch raise and hammer techniques more refined than I do, but for = anything over about 30 cents, I'm inclined to raise pitch, rough tune, = fine tune.  -?-</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV>Alan Barnard</DIV> <DIV>Salem, Missouri</DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>