<html><body> <DIV>Speaking of George Defabaugh, does anyone know if Jim Coleman is still alive?  What did George die from . He seemed pretty healthy on the Potter vidoes.</DIV> <DIV>Marshall</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- From: "Alan Barnard" <tune4u@earthlink.net> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2802" name=GENERATOR>1. You will allow, I hope, that I said I wasn't really ranting and I did put a little grin in there <G> in my posting. I have no desire to be overly picky, boorish, or know-it-all-ish. 'Cause I'm not, and I ain't, and I don't. 2.  Interesting comment about things written in stone (if you write in stone are you, by definition, a chisler?). I would simply ask this question: Would you ever teach a new tuner to use F3 in setting the A? Or would you follow the example of Vigil Smith, Geo. Defenbaugh, Art Reblitz, and everyone else I know of, and just teach F2 because it is more accurate? 3. Remember that this whole discussion started with a newbie trying to find his way. If our comments on setting the silly A haven't confused him, I'm surprised. So I said just let it be a rule. If someone wants to make exceptions to "rules" or common and proven practices—and they truly understand what they are doing and why—I have no quarrel. 4.  Since t! his discussion has been hashed over so often, and since science supports the "rule", and since it is so universally published and taught correctly, i.e. F2 or B1, I didn't see this as matter of hair-splitting or debate, and certainly not one for contention. I was surprised that anyone would even pick up my comments as starting point for a debate! 5.  To quote Joe out in Origani, "Sheesh." <IMG alt="" hspace=0 src="cid:410-220061082134194531@13071999" align=baseline border=0> Alan Barnard Salem (It Means "Peace"), Missouri > I might as well say this today; I've been biting my tongue and thinking > discretion is the better part of valor....'n stuff....but now I gotta say > something: > > We get so trapped down box canyons on this list, expending massive amounts > of energy on teeny, teeny minutiae that rarely, if ever, deserve the kind of > energy and effort they receive.  There are ways we can really help! each > other, and help those new to us, by talking about activities and protocols > that really ARE crucial to building a successful practice; we do that some > of the time, but a LOT of bandwidth is expended on what I call "debate club" > matters----little hair-splitting arguments/dialogues that indicate too much > time on one's hands---or something. We want to present an expert face and > presence to this list, and understandably so, but let's do it with humanity, > humor,common sense and compassion. > > Flame suit on, locked and loaded, watching the NFL playoffs with mah boy. > Perfect winter day in SoCal.... > > David Andersen > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>