<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; = charset=us-ascii"> <TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2716.2200" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV>Terry, David,</DIV> <DIV>I also remember = a long thread on Impedance and Empiricism back in 2000.  Haven't had time = to look it up and count the responses.  I do see a pattern of certain = people able to sustain and carry discussions beyond where most of us care to = go!  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>jeannie</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> Jeannie Grassi, RPT Associate Editor, Piano = Technicians Journal <A href="mailto:jgrassi@silverlink.net">mailto:jgrassi@silverlink.net</A> = <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr = align=left>-----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On = Behalf Of David Skolnik Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 6:51 = AM To: Pianotech Subject: Re: Post = Responses </DIV>Terry - You are right  to take pride in the little miracles that are = the unpredictable children of ones' thoughts.  In response to your = question, if you allow for the somewhat looser interpretation, which follows the = subject thread, rather than the specific posting title (since the actual = subject of this wandered a bit), my candidate for the longest would be one which = began on 11/30/01 "Negative Bearing" by the infamous David Love, and morphed = through a number of changed subject tiltles until a final gasp from Phillip Ford = and Richard Brekne, "Vibrating strings and bridges", on 3/14/02.  I = counted a total of about 519 posts throughout the thread, the title subjects of = which were as follows: 11/30/01 - 12/04/01<X-TAB>     </X-TAB>Negative = Bearing<X-TAB>        </X-TAB><X-= TAB>        </X-TAB><X-TAB> =        </X-TAB>037 12/03/01 - 12/06/01<X-TAB>     </X-TAB>Soundboard = grain = angle<X-TAB>  </X-TAB><X-TAB>     &nbs= p;  </X-TAB><X-TAB>       &n= bsp;</X-TAB>039 12/03/01 - 12/04/01<X-TAB>     </X-TAB>Sound in = soundboard<X-TAB>     </X-TAB><X-TAB> &nbsp= ;      </X-TAB><X-TAB>   &nb= sp;    </X-TAB>009 12/04/01 - 12/06/01<X-TAB>     </X-TAB>Modal = Analysis<X-TAB>  </X-TAB><X-TAB>     &= nbsp;  </X-TAB><X-TAB>      &nbsp= ; </X-TAB><X-TAB>        </X= -TAB>025 12/05/01 - 12/08/01<X-TAB>     </X-TAB>Sound = waves<X-TAB>     </X-TAB><X-TAB>  &nbs= p;     </X-TAB><X-TAB>    &n= bsp;   </X-TAB><X-TAB>      =   </X-TAB>032 12/08/01 - 12/10/01<X-TAB>     </X-TAB>Soundboard vs. = string<X-TAB>   </X-TAB><X-TAB>    &nb= sp;   </X-TAB><X-TAB>      &= nbsp; </X-TAB>005 12/15/01 - 12/ 21/01<X-TAB>    </X-TAB>Behavior of sound = waves<X-TAB> </X-TAB><X-TAB>      &nbs= p; </X-TAB><X-TAB>        </= X-TAB>255<X-TAB>     </X-TAB> 12/24/01 - 12/31/01<X-TAB>     </X-TAB>Rocking = bridges<X-TAB> </X-TAB><X-TAB>      &n= bsp; </X-TAB><X-TAB>        = </X-TAB><X-TAB>        </X-TAB>03= 2 12/25/01 - 12/26/01<X-TAB>     </X-TAB>Sound wave = physics<X-TAB>      </X-TAB><X-TAB> &n= bsp;      </X-TAB><X-TAB>   =      </X-TAB>002 01/06/02 - 01/10/02<X-TAB>     </X-TAB>Sound = propagation<X-TAB>       </X-TAB><X-TA= B>        </X-TAB><X-TAB> &n= bsp;      </X-TAB>019 01/17/02 - 01/20/02<X-TAB>     </X-TAB>Soundwaves (a = neat = experiment)<X-TAB>  </X-TAB><X-TAB>    &nbs= p;   </X-TAB>023 01/24/02 - 01/31/02<X-TAB>     </X-TAB>Wapin = bridge<X-TAB>    </X-TAB><X-TAB>   &nb= sp;    </X-TAB><X-TAB>     &= nbsp;  </X-TAB><X-TAB>      &nbsp= ; </X-TAB>026 02/04/02 - 02/05/02<X-TAB>     </X-TAB>On the course = of = discussion<X-TAB>     </X-TAB><X-TAB> &nbsp= ;      </X-TAB>002 02/25/02 - 02/27/02<X-TAB>     </X-TAB>Bass bridges = made of = spruce<X-TAB>     </X-TAB><X-TAB>  &nb= sp;     </X-TAB>005 02/27/02<X-TAB> &nbs= p;      </X-TAB><X-TAB>   &n= bsp;    </X-TAB>Aprons & holey = bridges<X-TAB>  </X-TAB><X-TAB>     &n= bsp;  </X-TAB><X-TAB>       =  </X-TAB>002 02/25/02 - 02/27/02<X-TAB>     </X-TAB>On the Course = of = discussion<X-TAB>     </X-TAB><X-TAB> &nbsp= ;      </X-TAB>004 <X-TAB>  &n= bsp;     </X-TAB><X-TAB>    =     </X-TAB><X-TAB>     &nbs= p;  </X-TAB>(Behavior of = soundboards) 03/14/02<X-TAB>       =  </X-TAB><X-TAB>        </X-= TAB>Vibrating strings<X-TAB>       </X-TAB>  = = <X-TAB>      </X-TAB><X-TAB>  &nb= sp;     </X-TAB><X-TAB>    &= nbsp;   </X-TAB>002 I always hoped (expected) that the discussion would revive once everyone = cooled down and took extension division courses in non-linear calculus.  = So far, no luck.  I thought I had a chance at reviving it last week, when = I replied to a post of Del's in "No killer octave here", where he = said: <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite">At 04:18 PM 4/13/2003 = -0700, Del wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite">Energy from the = strings is "transferred over a greater area of the bridge" by virture of = the bridge being set in physical motion by the vibrating energy in = the strings. Because of this motion both the soundboard and = the other strings in the vicinity are also set in = motion.</BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE> I said: <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite">I'm wondering whether = to expect a response from Robin Hufford any time soon. I wasn't sure that one = ever got settled either, at least with a "blow'um out of the water" = arguement.  I had always expected that the subject would be revisited when = tempers had cooled.  Perhaps they're still cooling.</BLOCKQUOTE> No = takers then.  Any now? Still keeping my head down, with extra = gallons of H2O in the basement. David Skolnik Hastings-on-Hudson PS.  The recent Steinway = Duplex discussion (11/12 - 12/01) @ 249 did pretty well also. At 06:23 AM 4/21/2003 -0400, you = wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite">I find it curious = sometimes that you can post something and not get any responses. Then other times = the responses don't seem to stop. I wonder if anyone has kept track of = the most popular post ever (the most responses to it)? I'm amazed at = the conversation stirred up by my original Killer Octave Question post. = I was hoping to get a little feedback - probably from the likes of Del F. = and Ron N., but clearly did not expect 124 responses!!! This back-and-forth = banter seems to have squeezed out some very interesting = information. Terry Farrell   _______________________________________________ pianotech = list info: <A href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives" eudora="autourl">https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</A> = </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>