<HTML>In a message dated 2/28/03 2:34:15 AM !!!First Boot!!!= , cedel@supernet.com writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Several of you mentioned this.&= nbsp; No, I'm not 100% sure, but it seems unlikely that since nearly every note has this noise, and it is relatively consistent= , that it is loose catcher shanks.  I only remember checking one, though;= it was okay.  Thanks to all for your suggestions. Clyde </BLOCKQUOTE> Clyde How did you check it? I have on occasion found that just wiggling it did not= show it was loose. It wasn't until I took the hammer and but out of the pia= no, and twisted the shank, that it showed that it was loose. Since you said = it was on all of them, it might be a problem with this whole set of butts. M= aybe somebody had a bad day, or a newbie at the factory didn't know how much= glue to put in each hole. All sorts of reasons why a whole set of butts are= bad. Wim </HTML>