<HTML>In a message dated 7/14/01 4:22:11 AM Central Daylight Time, jstuart1@pdq.net writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I have seen tilters in the catalogs, do they really work and are they safe? How many people does it take to tilt the piano up and back? I am 5'6 and 155 lb. Judy </BLOCKQUOTE> Tilters work great when you want to restring, dope the pin block (if you feel the need to do that), repair/replace casters, tighten the bottom board. Judy, I don't know. I have no trouble, but then I'm 6' 240 lbs. Before you buy one, find out who has one, and try it. I think for a spinet or console you probably have the leverage. But for a big upright, there might be too much mass for you to pull back on. I don't think it is muscle as much as it your weight that will help pull the piano back. Wim</HTML>