<html> <body> Julie: I've encountered an attitude in a client who believed their piano should stay tuned indefinitely after having once been tuned.  Make sure you are not dealing with that.  Sometimes a little education goes a long way.  Driving the pins in a little further with a hammer and set will generally make the difference (don't forget to pull the action and support the pinblock if you are doing this even a short distance away from either end).  Doping will help a little in the case of humidity cycling damage, depending how bad (also pull the action for this as doping it will have results you will never want to duplicate).  This can be difficult to get into the wood if there are bushings around the pins (haven't had to do this on a Kawaii and don't recall if they use them). Something for comment from the rest of the list, should re-pinning be combined with re-stringing?  Unless, of course, they look really good and aren't sticking at the capo bar(s). Andrew At 10:29 PM 10/30/2003 -0500, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Greetings,             I have a lady I am going to see Monday who has a Kawaii grand that she claims will not hold a tuning. I never doped a pinblock before. If upon inspection the pins are loose, should I dope. Is this an unwise move?              I hear  that doping only lasts for one tuning and then the obvious is inevitable, which I hear is a re-pin job. How loose must pins be to sanction a re-pinning? Thanx, Julie    </blockquote></body> </html>