<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 5.50.4616.200" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mark, thanks, but</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I don't think that thinning with = solvent is a good idea since that would cause the material to shrink.  If you added = 10 % solvent it would evaporate and reduce the epoxy in size.  For = some sealing applications it might be an advantage, but for instance to = solidify a cracked pinblock the shrinkage would be detrimental.  One big plus = for epoxy is that it has no volatile chemicals to cause it to shrink during cure.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Carl Meyer  Assoc. PTG<BR>Santa = Clara, California<BR><A href="mailto:cmpiano@attbi.com">cmpiano@attbi.com</A> = </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=bases-loaded@juno.com href="mailto:bases-loaded@juno.com">bases-loaded@juno.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 05, = 2002 8:01 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Epoxy</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Carl -</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Probably won't get it down to the viscosity of water, but liquid = wood (Abatron) has a solvent that can be added to further reduce the = viscosity of the epoxy.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You can make it Very runny....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Mark Potter</DIV> <DIV><A = href="mailto:bases-loaded@juno.com">bases-loaded@juno.com</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 16:44:39 -0800 "Carl Meyer" <<A href="mailto:cmpiano@attbi.com">cmpiano@attbi.com</A>> = writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 10px; MARGIN-LEFT: 10px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 = 2px solid"> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Everytime I hear someone say I have = an epoxy that is really thin, I  want to shout out "HOW THIN IS IT?"</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I found a great site at   = <A = href="http://xtronics.com/reference/viscosity.htm">http://xtronics.com/= reference/viscosity.htm</A></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Water at 20 degrees C has a = viscosity of 1.002cP (centi-poise)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Olive oil   is = 82</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Light machine oil is = 102</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Caster oil is 986</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Honey is 10000</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ketchup is 50000</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Peanut butter is 250000      Etc</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Epotec 301 is 100</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>West systems thinnest is = 725</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Liquid wood is 500</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Epotec301 is expensive since it = is optical grade.  I'm waiting for a spec sheet for clear coat, but I = think it is similar to liquid wood.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There may be other qualities of = epoxy that will enhance penetration, but I would think viscosity would be the = primary one.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Warming the pinblock, bridge or = other items helps a great deal.  A lot of spec sheets don't list viscosity, = hardness and other parameters and there is no easy way to = compare.  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Still learning all I can about epoxy!!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Carl Meyer  Assoc. = PTG<BR>Santa Clara, California<BR><A = href="mailto:cmpiano@attbi.com">cmpiano@attbi.com</A> </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- = </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=davidlovepianos@earthlink.net href="mailto:davidlovepianos@earthlink.net">David Love</A> = </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 01, = 2002 9:50 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Epoxy</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>I keep hearing mention of an epoxy that is the = consistency of water.  Who makes this product and where can I = get it.  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>David Love</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>