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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span =
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pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>De la part de</span></b> Joseph Garrett<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Envoyé&nbsp;:</span></b> mercredi =
11 janvier
2006 3:03<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>À&nbsp;:</span></b> pianotech<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Objet&nbsp;:</span></b> Re: Lovely =
Overdamper
Piano</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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Bold";color:navy'>Joe,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span =
style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In one case I used felt wich was =
specially
made for  overdampers and this felt looked more dense and heavyer than =
modern
damper felt.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span =
style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Another time I just ordered a =
complete set
from Renner (with the wood core) and just screwed them on. (this is =
expensive)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span =
style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I didn&#8217;t know that =
overdampers were
designed to have an intentional =
after-ring&nbsp;?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span =
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span =
style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I tought they just were made =
because it was
cheaper and easyer to produce&nbsp;than under =
dampers?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span =
style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Any way it is amazing to see that =
under
dampers were used as early as 1825 (i think on a Roller&amp;Blanchet =
french
upright)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span =
style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So this after-ring question would =
make
sense&nbsp;? (even if Bluthner made overdampers that were effectively =
damping)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="AGaramond Bold"><span =
style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:"AGaramond Bold"'>I have no problem with replacing =
the
damper felt, as long as it is the CORRECT felt, with the CORRECT fiber
orientation.&lt;G&gt; To replace the damper felt with MODERN type is
blastphamous in my opinion, as it makes it sound like a =
&quot;wimpy&quot;
modern piano and no longe mimics the &quot;ancient&quot; instruments, =
which is
the intent of the design. This also follows (especially), with Square =
Grands.
In that particular case, you open up a VERY LARGE can of =
worms!</span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="AGaramond Bold"><span =
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12.0pt;font-family:"AGaramond Bold"'>I equate the modernization of =
OverDamper
Pianos as trying to make Mason &amp; Hamlin sound/play like a Steinway! =
(It can
be done, but WHY?)</span></font><font size=4 face="AGaramond =
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="AGaramond Bold"><span =
style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:"AGaramond Bold"'>The scaling and the intended =
overring of
the dampers makes music of a different character, especially when they =
are
tuned in a Victorian Temperament!&lt;G&gt;</span></font><font size=4
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