<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word"><HEAD><TITLE>Re: Petrof = keyslip</TITLE> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content=Word.Document name=ProgId> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2737.800" name=GENERATOR> <META content="Microsoft Word 9" name=Originator><LINK href="cid:filelist.xml@01C45424.59DE4030" rel=File-List> <STYLE>@font-face { font-family: Comic Sans MS; } @page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; = mso-header-margin: .5in; mso-footer-margin: .5in; mso-paper-source: 0; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; = mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; = mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; = mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single } A:visited { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single } P.MsoAutoSig { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoAutoSig { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoAutoSig { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } SPAN.EmailStyle18 { COLOR: navy; mso-style-type: personal-reply; mso-ansi-font-size: = 10.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; = mso-bidi-font-family: Arial } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US style="tab-interval: .5in" vLink=blue link=blue = bgColor=white> <DIV>Hi Joseph</DIV> <DIV>Thanks for the tips . . </DIV> <DIV>I have lots to learn about 'trolling' for more = work while tuning  a customers piano . . </DIV> <DIV>I usually have just included cleaning and adjusting = as part of the tuning bill . .  maybe I shouldn't . . . after all, I got to = thinking about the guys who service my vehicle . .  there, I pay for every = screw and washer . .  !!</DIV> <DIV>cheers</DIV> <DIV>Jim Kinnear</DIV> <DIV>Collingwood, CA</DIV> <DIV><A = href="http://www.kinnearpiano.com">www.kinnearpiano.com</A> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black">From: <A title=josephspiano@comcast.net href="mailto:josephspiano@comcast.net">Joseph Alkana</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">To: <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 = 12:31 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Subject: Re: Petrof = keyslip</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV> Dean, Doable in five minutes? You sound like an eternal optimist. ;-) <o:p></o:p>   Yes, I am quite optimistic, something wrong about = that? Better than being negative and all knowing in one's approach = to life. <o:p></o:p>  How many techs would normally carry the right sized drywall screws or a = right angle drill, or a shop vac to clean up the shavings, or a grinder to = blunt the end of the screw. Now most of us have those tools, but I doubt very = many carry them around all the time.  <o:p></o:p>  Many full time field technicians carry these tools all the time.  It = may surprise you that some of us actually do things to  pianos = besides just tune them in the field. A fine example is Isaac Sadirgursky = RPT, and his entire approach to service in the field. You should attend one of his = classes sometime.   Drywall screws - I always carry them in extra length. They are very handy for = all types of odd repairs that come up. All you have to do is chop = them off to length with your wire cutters. Grinder - Why? Just a couple of swipes with a file from the tool kit will = take care of any pointy ends. Shop vac - We're talking a minute amount of sawdust here, most of which = will stick to the drill bit anyhow. It will join the dust bunnies under the keys = just fine, unless the customer wants me to clean the piano after seeing = what it looks like under the keys, which will ultimately result in a heck of a = lot more possibilities for service dollars than your method. Right angle drill - Actually I do carry one, which I expect most technicians = do not, but I was actually thinking of my little Milwaukee driver/drill which = does a good impersonation of a right angle drill. Always keep that handy for = cabinet screws, hole drilling, etc., so as to save wear on wrist and time on = the job. (Thanks to Doug Wood RPT) More professional that way, don't you think?   On the other hand, most all of us carry a screwdriver and shims, which makes = the 30 minute job a little more practical. I wonder if you�d have to pull = the whole key frame. I�d probably stick a screwdriver down in there, bend the = slip out, and jam a shim in; 3 minutes 45 seconds, = tops.   So, I've made the job more permanent, certainly adjustable in the future, = took a very short time to accomplish and looks a whole lot more = professional. No keyframe moved and wasted time in getting the action back to = square one. Plus I've sold the customer a vacuum and cleaning = job...I always carry my vacuum with two hoses in the car (thanks Isaac). Don't = you clean pianos? While I was showing the customer the repair and the = dirt, I also got a chance to show how bad the action actually worked and sold a future hammer filing and regulation job because everything was = viewable. Plus a bottle of High Gloss piano polish and a piano light because I = had the customer's attention. :-)   Optimistic enough for ya?  </DIV> <DIV>Joseph Alkana  RPT <A = href="mailto:josephspiano@comcast.net">josephspiano@comcast.net</A></FO= NT></DIV></DIV> <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black">From: <A title=deanmay@pianorebuilders.com href="mailto:deanmay@pianorebuilders.com">Dean May</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">To: <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 = 2:34 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Subject: RE: Petrof = keyslip</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV class=Section1><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]><![if = !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> Dean<o:p></o:p> <![if = !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p> Dean May             cell 812.239.3359<o:p></o:p> PianoRebuilders.com   812.235.5272<o:p></o:p> Terre Haute IN  47802<o:p></o:p> <= FONT color=black><![if = !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>= </BODY></HTML>