<html><body> <DIV>Hi Ed,</DIV> <DIV>I tried the video again, and it works now, go figure.  Before it was jumpy with lines, and the traction was fine on the vCR.  Now the video works fine.  Part of the reason I post on here even if something is already in a book or on a video, is due to the fact that I appreciate the interaction and "the getting to know" others in the business.  I enjoy being a part rather than apart.  Thanks again. I'll check for that repair as I watch it later on.</DIV> <DIV>Marshall</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: ed440@mindspring.com <BR> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2802" name=GENERATOR> <DIV>Marshall-</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You told me you have the Randy Potter course.</DIV> <DIV>It shows you how to make this repair.  You can break hammer shanks on your study action and repair them until you can do it well.</DIV> <DIV>Then you can do the repair on some else's piano.</DIV> <DIV>Have you found the Coleman beat locater cards that come with the Potter course, and learned the overtone series?</DIV> <DIV>These are the kinds of things you need to do if you intend to become an RPT as you have said.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Sincerely,</DIV> <DIV>Ed Sutton<BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message----- <BR>From: pianotune05 <PIANOTUNE05@COMCAST.NET><BR>Sent: Feb 24, 2006 12:45 AM <BR>To: Pianotech List <PIANOTECH@PTG.ORG><BR>Subject: Re: a hammer question <BR><BR></DIV><ZZZHTML><ZZZHEAD><ZZZMETA http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"><ZZZMETA content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2802" name="GENERATOR"> <STYLE></STYLE> </ZZZHEAD><ZZZBODY id=role_body style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" bgColor="#ffffff" bottomMargin="7" leftMargin="7" topMargin="7" rightMargin="7"> <DIV><FONT size=3>Hi Tom,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>I would simply undue the old shank from the action and replace it after gluing the hammer head back on right?  I' m sure taking a hammer out of the piano shouldn't be too difficult. I have an old action here in my office at home that I kept from a piano just for learning purposes.  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>Marshall</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=tomtuner@verizon.net href="mailto:tomtuner@verizon.net">TOM DRISCOLL</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 24, 2006 12:20 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: a hammer question</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> a hammer question</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>Hi everyone,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>I have a future customer who has a piano with a hammer, get this, that's split.  He has the other, top half.  Rather than order 88 hammers which I was told would have to be done because I cannot just order one, I was given another idea.  I was told that there is a sleeve that can be placed on the hammer shank that is still attached to the action and then the top half is inserted in.  Does anyone know if this is a hard procedure as I'm just getting into the repair side of piano tech?  Where can I buy such a sleeve?  Thanks again, and if this is one of those, obvious things as CY mentioned to me yesterday, I appologize.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>Marshall</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV>Marshall,</DIV> <DIV>    I'm a bit confused by your question.</DIV> <DIV>    Is the hammer "split" or the hammer shank ?</DIV> <DIV>    If it's the shank, this is as common a problem as exists in a vertical piano., and if the hammer is  "split" why would you have to replace all 88 hammers?</DIV> <DIV>    If the shank is broken and has a long surface area you can glue and wrap with thread, or better replace the shank.</DIV> <DIV>    Forget the sleeve idea,--- they suck.</DIV> <DIV>    If you need to replace one hammer ,the supply houses offer remnant hammers for cheap .Sort of a Bag-O- Hammers that can be a source for spot replacement. This will also give you some voicing experience to get a somewhat mismatched hammer to blend in with it's neighbors.</DIV> <DIV>    </DIV> <DIV>    </DIV> <DIV>    </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>    </DIV> <DIV>    Marshall, You needn't apologize, and I'm not being critical here--We all need help and advice, no matter what our experience. and the list is a great resource but it is not a school for piano technology 101.</DIV> <DIV>     I would encourage you toward a course of study or purchase the PACE lessons from ptg. Link below:</DIV> <DIV>    </DIV> <DIV>    <A href="https://www.ptg.org/store/index.php">https://www.ptg.org/store/index.php</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>    My advice is to find the resources to establish a basic foundation of knowledge. The PACE lessons or sessions with an experienced technician come to mind.</DIV> <DIV>    I joined PTG in 1975 and became a member of the SW florida chapter.</DIV> <DIV>    On meeting day, the late Ed Wood opened his shop for the afternoon and along with help from the other RPT members, worked with new Student and Apprentice members on repairs and regulation.I can't tell you how valuable that generosity and experience was to me back then.</DIV> <DIV>    </DIV> <DIV>    Best wishes ,</DIV> <DIV>    Tom Driscoll RPT</DIV> <DIV>    </DIV> <DIV>    </DIV> <DIV>    </DIV> <DIV>    </DIV> <DIV>    </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></ZZZBODY></ZZZHTML></BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>