<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1 = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content=Word.Document name=ProgId> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2722" name=GENERATOR> <META content="Microsoft Word 10" name=Originator><LINK href="cid:filelist.xml@01C5AAE3.303B2DD0" = rel=File-List><o:SmartTagType name="PersonName" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagT= ype> <STYLE>  </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US id=role_body style="tab-interval: .5in" = bottomMargin=7 vLink=blue link=blue bgColor=white leftMargin=7 topMargin=7 = rightMargin=7> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have no doubt that PianoDisc has good = certified installers and maybe even a good warranty - but I doubt they'll want to = do much warranty work for a QRS Pianomation player unit. However, you gave me an = idea - if they lady had the unit installed within the past year, she really = should call the installer and request they s/he do the repair at no charge (unless = she told them not to do it to save a few $$ - which I doubt).</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Good idea. Thanks.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Terry Farrell</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=deanmay@pianorebuilders.com href="mailto:deanmay@pianorebuilders.com">Dean May</A> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV class=Section1> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">This poor = lady shouldn’t have to pay for it. <SPAN class=SpellE>PianoDisc</SPAN> = requires all of their certified installers to keep all of the pedals working. = Whatever dealer had the system installed is required to use certified = installers (though some of them don’t). The dealer should pay you (he made all = the profit). If he refuses take it to <SPAN = class=SpellE>PianoDisc</SPAN> and they can put the heat on the dealer. </SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Farrell<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" = size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial = color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">Oh man, you are about as close as you can get without being exactly correct. I = think you are so warm here that if you were at the piano you would have it = nailed within seconds. Dave, I think you need to get credit for solving the problem!</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Verdana color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Verdana"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Verdana = color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Verdana"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial = color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">I thought of your suggestion and checked it out. It appeared that the = shift lever poked up from the top of the keybed an appropriate height so = that it should contact the keybed just fine. So it wasn't that it was too low.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Verdana color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Verdana"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Verdana = color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Verdana"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial = color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">So the next thing I tried was to pull the keyframe out toward the pianist an = inch or two. When you had the keyframe out to the front edge of the keybed, = everything worked just fine: push pedal down and keyframe slides over to the = right in the normal manner.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Verdana color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Verdana"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Verdana = color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Verdana"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial = color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Obviously, = having the keyframe hanging off the front edge of the keybed is not too great = - strikepoints and all that. So, the real trouble then was to = figure out how to move the plate forward that inch or two.......... okay, just kidding.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Verdana color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Verdana"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Verdana = color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Verdana"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial = color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">I noticed that the hole that the una-corda lever goes through in the = keybed was not round like most - it was oval and a couple inches long. I crawled = under the piano again to see what was going on. And there I saw it. Of = course, the una-corda lever is very close to the metal case for the player system = under the keybed. I saw two abandoned screw holes and inch away from the = screws that were holding the brackets for the una-corda lever in = place.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Verdana color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Verdana"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Verdana = color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Verdana"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial = color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Apparently = the installer of the Pianomation player system moved the una-corda pedal = an inch forward to clear the player system box. In that position, the lever = does not engage the keyframe. And either the dude (or dudette) just forgot to = try the pedal to see if it worked or took a shortcut and hoped the player = wouldn't use the pedal.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Verdana color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Verdana"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Verdana = color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Verdana"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial = color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">So now she wants it fixed. My thought is to rout out a small area of partial thickness (maybe a quarter inch or so) on bottom of the middle = board of the keyframe (the one that has the center rail mounted on it - the = rear rail is already routed out for the place where the una-corda pedal used to = engage the keyframe. Then install a hunk of hard maple that would run from = the middle board to the rear board on the keyframe. Keep the maple hunk maybe a = half-inch thick or so - keep it flush with the bottom of the other two keyframe = boards (not too high, not too low). Position it correctly so that the = una-corda lever will engage it, put a strip of leather on the correct edge, charge the = owner a handsome but fair fee (couple hundred bucks), and then smile when she = praises the wonderful job I did (and then smile again when I cash her check).</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Verdana color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Verdana"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Verdana = color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Verdana"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial = color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">Or is there a better fix for this?</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Verdana = color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Verdana"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Verdana = color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Verdana"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial = color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">Terry Farrell</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Verdana color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Verdana"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Verdana = color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Verdana"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial = color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">Off for my Saturday morning 60-mile hurricane bike ride! That long eastern leg = should be fun with 30 mph winds out of the east predicted!</SPAN></FONT><FONT = face=Verdana color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Verdana"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: = medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: 5pt 0in 5pt = 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: = medium none"> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial = color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV style="font-color: black"> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; MARGIN-LEFT: = 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A title=Piannaman@aol.com href="mailto:Piannaman@aol.com">Piannaman@aol.com</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT = face=Verdana color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT = id=role_document face=Verdana color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">A wild = guess, based on a previous frustrating experience.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT = face=Verdana color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Verdana"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT = face=Verdana color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Verdana">The shift lever is not contacting with the keyframe at alll because = the blocks that hold it in place on the bottom of the piano sit too far = above (below, really) the surface to which they are attached, which puts = the keyframe out of reach.  Installers of disc systems sometimes do = funny things to get pedals out of the way of various contraptions down there.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT = face=Verdana color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Verdana"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT = face=Verdana color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Dave S.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT = face=Verdana color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Verdana"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT = face=Verdana color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Verdana">In a message dated 8/26/05 6:07:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com writes:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: = medium none; MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; = PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: blue 1.5pt solid; = PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT = face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; = BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: = 5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; = BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none" cite="" type="cite"> <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT = face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">Okay, here is my first (and likely lame) contribution to the daily = mystery question.<BR> <BR>About 1980 Kawai KG-2S - about 5' 10" - = very good to excellent condition. Lady bought it used one year ago = (she paid $3,500 for it - perfect satin cherry case - she got a = great deal!). During that first year she had a QRS Pianomation = player system installed on the piano. We had set up a service appointment = for cleaning the interior, tuning and looking at a "loose" pedal.<BR> <BR>The left (una-corda) pedal was just = hanging down. I crawled under piano to check levers, etc. Everything with = the una-corda under the keybed appeared to be functioning just = fine. Adjustment appears good (in that, when the pedal travels down, = the lever moves sideways in the keybed). However, when you depress = the left pedal the action frame did not slide over to the right. = The keyframe was resting on the left felted keyframe stop. The = action slid in and out easily. It was as if the una-corda lever system was = not hooked up to the action frame.<BR> <BR>What was the cause = of the non-functioning una-corda pedal?<BR> <BR>(This is = probably too easy - however, it did take me a good 10 or 15 minutes to = fully figure it out.)<BR> <BR>Terry = Farrell<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOT= E></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT = face=Verdana color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Verdana"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BL= OCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>