<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Re: JIV-jumping into voicing</TITLE> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <STYLE type=text/css>BLOCKQUOTE { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } DL { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } UL { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } OL { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } LI { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } </STYLE> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2769" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ron,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wow, do I hear you!   I = recently attended a concert (not where I take care of the pianos) where the piano = tone sounded as tinny as an old upright with the rinky tink on.  = Ugh.  The kicker?  I talked with the technician who prepared the piano and = the artist LOVED it.  Double ugh.  I know this tech believes that pianos = have to sound like granite to carry a hall (we argue about it all the time), but = I was there and I can tell you the piano couldn've been heard with a different = voice.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It's always nice to work with an artist = who really plays musically, not just fast and loud.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Barbara Richmond, RPT</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=sec@overspianos.com.au = href="mailto:sec@overspianos.com.au">Overs Pianos</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 13, 2005 = 1:21 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: JIV-jumping into voicing</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Dave and Dale,</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>What you describe of the LA scene is similar here in Sydney. Most = technicians are of the tune-and-run variety. In recent years some of = us have been trying to turn this around through technician classes, but it = remains an uphill task.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>The task can be made even more difficult when high end = professional pianists are so used to hearing screaming concert pianos, they'll = complain if they play a piano which has been voiced at all to reduce the attack. Furthermore, many senior concert pianists, who are regarded by many as = the arbiters of good tune, have ears which have turned to cloth after a = lifetime of practice and performance.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Ron O.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE>At 9:38 AM -0800 13/11/05, David Andersen = wrote:</BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=Arial size=+1>. . = .</FONT><FONT face=Verdana> In 25 years of working on pianos in LA, with the = last 10 or so years mostly dedicated to good and expensive grand pianos, the = number of pianos that had been maintained in any realm beyond tuning before I = came on them was, and is, miniscule....1 or 2 percent, literally.  What = a joke.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=Verdana>And a = tragedy, really, for our profession.  All this talk, endless talk, about pianos, = and service, and how to do this and that with pianos, and then the harsh = reality:  almost nobody's actually doing it in good grand = pianos in LA. Why?  Because "tune & run"  is the easy money. A = no-brainer.  The average guy here charges $100-120.  Do six = tune-and-runs a day, and you're living large.  Do it five days a week, and = it's<B> 3 grand</B> a week, and baby's got a new pair o' shoes.<BR><BR>On the = other hand, just shoot me now if that's what I have to look forward to: = average clients, piano after piano in bad mechanical and tonal shape, and propagating the paradigm of "I don't give a rat's ass, so why should = my clients?  Why should I educate them about tone and touch when = it'll just slow me down, make me work and acquire new skills, work new = muscles, and (the final nail in the coffin:)<BR>'anyway, none of my clients = care or can hear or feel the difference.'"<BR><BR>What a crock of s**t.  Everybody can hear and feel the difference, including, first = and foremost, YOU.<BR><BR>Don't be a sellout.  Learn how t work on = pianos past the tuning, and quit telling your self destuctive things, like = nobody can hear or feel the difference....quit being so dang = negative.<BR><BR>End of rant.  Thank you.<BR><BR>David Andersen</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><X-SIGSEP><PRE>-- </PRE></X-SIGSEP> <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#0000ff size=+1><B>OVERS = PIANOS - SYDNEY</B></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000000><I>   </I></FONT><FONT color=#0000ff><I>Grand Piano Manufacturers</I></FONT><FONT color=#000000><BR>_______________________</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=-2><BR></FONT><FONT = color=#000000>Web http://overspianos.com.au</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT = color=#000000>mailto:ron@overspianos.com.au<BR>_______________________<= /FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>