<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; = charset=windows-1250"> <TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2604" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV> A 12th flat would be -1600 cents. = Now THAT's flat!<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p> I have "saved" a couple of = pinblocks that bad with CA -- like a miracle, really. Even if they only get a couple = years out of it, that's a help to a lot of families with limited = $.<o:p></o:p> Three things: = <o:p></o:p> Pins 'tapped in' should never get = too close to the plate. If they sit on the plate you will not be able to get it up = to pitch and/or the string will break.<o:p></o:p> If tapping pins (or replacing with = a larger size or shimming) seems to open bigger cracks, STOP. That block is shot. = CA and maybe an installed Dampp-chaser is your ONLY hope ... And kind of a Hail = Mary at that.<o:p></o:p> ALWAYS put down a tarp and = newspapers when you pour in the goo like that, especially if it is running between pin = holes because it will also run onto somebody's carpet! = DAMHIK<o:p></o:p> Glad it worked. Don't be = discouraged by critical commentary here. But DO be ENCOURAGED to further study for = future successes!<o:p></o:p> Alan = R. Barnard<o:p></o:p> <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = /><st1:place><st1:City>Salem</st1:City>, <st1:State>MO</st1:State></st1:place><o:p></o:p> ----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p> From: "Maggie Jusiel" <mags@magsmusic.net><o:p></o:p> To: <pianotech@ptg.org><o:p></o:p> Sent: <st1:date Month="3" Day="7" Year="2005">Monday, March 07, = 2005</st1:date> <st1:time Hour="19" = Minute="35">7:35 PM</st1:time><o:p></o:p> Subject: a success!<o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> > = Just wanted to share a success story with those who gave me so = many<o:p></o:p> > = directions on using CA glue...<o:p></o:p> ><o:p></o:p> > = It was a very old (tall) upright. The first thing I noticed was that<o:p></o:p> > = there wasn't anything covering the pinblock (no metal plate, etc.), <o:p></o:p> > = and I could see the cracks. The second thing I noticed was that all = <o:p></o:p> > = the strings were approximately a 12th flat or lower. I tried to pull = <o:p></o:p> > = a few up...no good...went right back down. Because of my previous <o:p></o:p> > = experience with CA glue, I thought it might not be enough, so I = <o:p></o:p> > = hammered the pins in further. (One hit pushed them to the coils!) = <o:p></o:p> > = This also opened up the cracks in the block a little more, but not too <o:p></o:p> > = much. After that, all but a few would just barely hold a pitch if I = <o:p></o:p> > = took the hammer off the pin very carefully. There were lots of people <o:p></o:p> > = there willing to help move the piano, so it was no trouble getting the <o:p></o:p> > = glue in. It was very interesting because as I put glue in one <o:p></o:p> > = location, we could watch it travel through the cracks to other pins, <o:p></o:p> > = filling up the gaps as it went. While the glue was drying, I took my = <o:p></o:p> > = time doing some other repairs, and they fed me. :D When the glue was "dry<o:p></o:p> enough", I went ahead and brought it up to pitch. It held quite<o:p></o:p> > = nicely. I was happily surprised! :D I've used CA glue before = on<o:p></o:p> > = other pianos, but none of them were this bad. I don't know if = I<o:p></o:p> > = needed to force the pins in further, but I think it helped, and it = <o:p></o:p> > = allowed more glue in. Hope that was the right thing?!?!?<o:p></o:p> ><o:p></o:p> ><o:p></o:p> > = Maggie Jusiel<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p></DIV></BODY></HTML> -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: = 03/04/2005