<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <meta name=ProgId content=Word.Document> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=File-List href="cid:filelist.xml@01C4AEFA.5BA20BA0"> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"/>  <style>  </style>  </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue style='tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=Section1> My complaint hasn’t been = about their cost, they’re less expensive than Steinway, Isaac, Abel Selects and about the same as other Abel hammers. They are only slightly more than = Ronsen hammers. I was interested to hear Lloyd talk about the pressing mixup of a couple of years ago, though, because I stopped using them about = that time because I found them to be too hard. = One thing I’ve noticed, which seems somewhat contrary to how Andre = described the felt, is that the Wurzen he talked about supposedly had this sort of yellowish, off white color. The Premium Blue doesn’t = seem to have that—at least the one set that I have in stock. Are there possibly different grades of Wurzen? The felt that Ray at Ronsen is using has a somewhat different color than the Premium Blue and the = pressing is also a different shape—more small-end-of-the-egg like (which I = prefer) and less round. I also find the = Premium Blue a difficult hammer to file. While I only have one set of Ronsen Wurzens which I’ve only experimented with, I haven’t found the same = filing problem. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> David Love <st1:PersonName>davidlovepianos@comcast.net</f= ont></st1:PersonName> = <o:p></o:p> </div> -----Original = Message----- From: = pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of D.L. Bullock Sent: Sunday, October 10, = 2004 4:08 PM To: PTG; antares Subject: RE: Renner = 'Blues' <o:p> </o:p> <div> Where did anyone = get the idea that "Most Americans do not like these  (Renner) hammers"?  I think the only thing anyone does not like = about Renners is their cost.  Every one of the finest technicians I have = known used Renners.  I have used them for over ten years.  I do not = find them to be too hard.  If one piano sounds too loud they may easily = be voiced down.  I prefer the old style sound from pianos I restore = from the teens and twenties. <o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> The new Yamaha = or even new Steinway sound sets my teeth on edge like fingernails on the blackboard.  Renners are exactly what I am looking for.  = I have only had one or two in those years of Renner hammers that were in need = of voicing down.  What I like about them is I don't have to voice them = up, but only need to even them out.  I have many happy customers who = agree with me and they are some of the finest musicians = anywhere.<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> If you want = stone hard hammers, check out imadegawa or other cheaper Asian hammers.  I had = one customer who called me up a month after getting his piano back from my competition.  He was literally in tears.  The piano had no = character in its tone and was excruciatingly LOUD.  It could not even play = soft if you tried.  He had asked for Renner and was told " You will = love it when I get done"  I replaced those brand new rock hammers with Renners and he then loved it.<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Another customer = spent $17,000. for a restoration of his Mason Hamlin and when he requested = Renner hammers was charged an extra $2,500.00 for them.  When he got the = piano back it had cheap Asian hammers on it that were like Rocks.  The = lawsuit he won but I doubt he will get anything from the so-called piano = technician in Broken Arrow OK since the guy declared bankruptcy.  He is still = doing university piano sales, however.<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> I am VERY = pleased with Renner hammers.  I would only change if I could find the hammer = exactly like they make but for substantially less money. (Like that will = happen.)<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> D.L. = Bullock<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <a href="http://www.thepianoworld.com">www.thepianoworld.com</a></f= ont><o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <div> Put the worlds = greatest healer to work for WHATEVER health problem you may have----YOUR OWN = IMMUNE SYSTEM.  Your body is capable of healing EVERY disease if you give = it the right fuel.  Visit <a = href="http://www.mannapages.com/dlbullock">http://www.mannapages.com/dl= bullock</a> to learn how to get the right fuel.  Also <a href="http://www.glycoscience.org/">www.glycoscience.org</a><o:p></o:p>= </div> </div> <blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'> -----Original Message----- From: antares [mailto:antares@euronet.nl] Sent: Sunday, October 10, = 2004 4:28 AM To: Pianotech Subject: Re: Renner = 'Blues'<o:p></o:p> It is exactly as what said, they are Wurzens = because they come from Renner and almost all hammers made by Renner are covered = with Wurzen felt. The fact that most Americans do not like these hammers has nothing to do = with the felt, but with the way they were made, i.e. the pressure with which = they were glued. Nobody likes stone hard hammers. What is sad though for all technicians who had no word in this nor = choice, is the fact that 'they' = kept on distributing these hammers for years, and only now are going to bring = the 'better hammers' into the US (if we may believe this). I personally never wanted to be dependent, but rather choose my own = stuff, and I have done so. On the other hand, this (the hammer business in the USA) is not my = business, literally speaking, but you asked, and it is a free world, at least so 'they' say......... friendly greetings from André Oorebeek "where Music is, no = harm can be"<o:p></o:p> </blockquote> </div> </body> </html>