<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; = charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=ProgId content=Word.Document> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=File-List href="cid:filelist.xml@01C5AAE3.303B2DD0"> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"/>  <style>  </style>  </head> <body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue = style='tab-interval:.5in' id="role_body" bottomMargin=7 leftmargin=7 topmargin=7 = rightMargin=7> <div class=Section1> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span = style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This poor lady shouldn’t have = to pay for it. <span class=SpellE>PianoDisc</span> requires all of their = certified installers to keep all of the pedals working. Whatever dealer had the = system installed is required to use certified installers (though some of them = don’t). The dealer should pay you (he made all the profit). If he refuses take = it to <span class=SpellE>PianoDisc</span> and they can put the heat on the dealer. = <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span = style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span = style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>There <span = class=GramE>has</span> only been a couple of times I didn’t hook up one or two pedals. But it = was done with the full consent of the customer. They wanted the system and = there was no way to do it without extensive modifications and cost. = <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span = style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <div> <p class=MsoAutoSig><b><font size=6 color=navy face="Bradley = Hand ITC"><span style='font-size:22.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Bradley = Hand ITC"; color:navy;font-weight:bold;mso-no-proof:yes'>Dean<o:p></o:p></span></fon= t></b></p> <p class=MsoAutoSig><st1:PersonName><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;mso-no-proof: yes'>Dean May</span></font></st1:PersonName><font color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>       &nbs= p;     </span>cell 812.239.3359<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New = Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>PianoRebuilders.co= m<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>   = </span>812.235.5272<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New = Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>Terre Haute = IN<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  = </span>47802<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span = style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original = Message-----<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> = pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b><span = style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Farrell<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, August = 27, 2005 5:01 AM<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Pianotech<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Una-Corda = Mystery</span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = color=black face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Oh man, you are about as close as you can get without being exactly correct. I = think you are so warm here that if you were at the piano you would have it = nailed within seconds. Dave, I think you need to get credit for solving the = problem!</span></font><font color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-family:Verdana;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> <o:p></o= :p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = color=black face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I thought of your suggestion and checked it out. It appeared that the = shift lever poked up from the top of the keybed an appropriate height so that it = should contact the keybed just fine. So it wasn't that it was too = low.</span></font><font color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-family:Verdana;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> <o:p></o= :p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = color=black face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>So the next thing I tried was to pull the keyframe out toward the pianist an = inch or two. When you had the keyframe out to the front edge of the keybed, = everything worked just fine: push pedal down and keyframe slides over to the right = in the normal manner.</span></font><font color=black face=Verdana><span style='font-family:Verdana;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> <o:p></o= :p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = color=black face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Obviously, having the keyframe hanging off the front edge of the keybed is not too = great - strikepoints and all that. So, the real trouble then was to figure = out how to move the plate forward that inch or two.......... okay, just = kidding.</span></font><font color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-family:Verdana;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> <o:p></o= :p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = color=black face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I noticed that the hole that the una-corda lever goes through in the = keybed was not round like most - it was oval and a couple inches long. I crawled = under the piano again to see what was going on. And there I saw it. Of course, the una-corda lever is very close to the metal case for the player system = under the keybed. I saw two abandoned screw holes and inch away from the screws = that were holding the brackets for the una-corda lever in = place.</span></font><font color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-family:Verdana;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> <o:p></o= :p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = color=black face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Apparently the installer of the Pianomation player system moved the una-corda pedal = an inch forward to clear the player system box. In that position, the lever = does not engage the keyframe. And either the dude (or dudette) just forgot to = try the pedal to see if it worked or took a shortcut and hoped the player = wouldn't use the pedal.</span></font><font color=black face=Verdana><span style='font-family:Verdana;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> <o:p></o= :p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = color=black face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>So now she wants it fixed. My thought is to rout out a small area of partial = thickness (maybe a quarter inch or so) on bottom of the middle board of the = keyframe (the one that has the center rail mounted on it - the rear rail is = already routed out for the place where the una-corda pedal used to engage the = keyframe. Then install a hunk of hard maple that would run from the middle board = to the rear board on the keyframe. Keep the maple hunk maybe a half-inch thick = or so - keep it flush with the bottom of the other two keyframe boards (not too = high, not too low). Position it correctly so that the una-corda lever will = engage it, put a strip of leather on the correct edge, charge the owner a handsome = but fair fee (couple hundred bucks), and then smile when she praises the = wonderful job I did (and then smile again when I cash her = check).</span></font><font color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-family:Verdana;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> <o:p></o= :p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = color=black face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Or is there a better fix for this?</span></font><font color=black = face=Verdana><span style='font-family:Verdana;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> <o:p></o= :p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = color=black face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Terry Farrell</span></font><font color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-family: Verdana;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> <o:p></o= :p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = color=black face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Off for my Saturday morning 60-mile hurricane bike ride! That long eastern leg = should be fun with 30 mph winds out of the east predicted!</span></font><font color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-family:Verdana;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black = 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt; margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'= > <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = color=black face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div style='font-color:black'> <p class=MsoNormal = style='margin-left:.5in;background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:black;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 = color=black face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a href="mailto:Piannaman@aol.com" = title="Piannaman@aol.com">Piannaman@aol.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'><o:p> </o= :p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana id="role_document"><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana; color:black'>A wild guess, based on a previous frustrating = experience.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> <o:p></o= :p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>The shift= lever is not contacting with the keyframe at alll because the = blocks that hold it in place on the bottom of the piano sit too far above = (below, really) the surface to which they are attached, which puts the keyframe = out of reach.  Installers of disc systems sometimes do funny things to get = pedals out of the way of various contraptions down = there.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> <o:p></o= :p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Dave S.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> <o:p></o= :p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>In a message dated 8/26/05 6:07:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com writes:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid blue = 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt; margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = color=black face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p= ></span></font></p> </div> <blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black = 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt; margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'= cite="" type=cite> <blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = color=black face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Okay, here is my first (and likely lame) contribution to the daily mystery = question.<br>  <br> About 1980 Kawai KG-2S - about 5' 10" - very good to excellent = condition. Lady bought it used one year ago (she paid $3,500 for it - perfect satin = cherry case - she got a great deal!). During that first year she had a QRS = Pianomation player system installed on the piano. We had set up a service = appointment for cleaning the interior, tuning and looking at a "loose" = pedal.<br>  <br> The left (una-corda) pedal was just hanging down. I crawled under piano = to check levers, etc. Everything with the una-corda under the keybed = appeared to be functioning just fine. Adjustment appears good (in that, when the = pedal travels down, the lever moves sideways in the keybed). However, when you depress the left pedal the action frame did not slide over to the right. = The keyframe was resting on the left felted keyframe stop. The action slid = in and out easily. It was as if the una-corda lever system was not hooked up to = the action frame.<br>  <br> What was the cause of the non-functioning una-corda pedal?<br>  <br> (This is probably too easy - however, it did take me a good 10 or 15 = minutes to fully figure it out.)<br>  <br> Terry Farrell<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> <o:p></o= :p></span></font></p> </div> </blockquote> </div> </body> </html>