<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2668" = name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY style="BACKGROUND-POSITION: 0px 0px; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 5px 10px = 10px; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" bgColor=#ffffff background="" scroll=yes ORGYPOS="0"> <DIV><FONT size=2>Hello Terry, Mark and List</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>You are <EM>so right!</EM> Do develop a good tuning = ear, Mark. Although it may be said that the end result is all that matters - it's = also good for your morale if you can not only set the bearings by ear, but = develop a keen sense of hearing to get those top notes in tune! (as well as the = bottom notes!) It's the hearing of the beats in given intervals which will = guide you. The horse and Cart has no part in this - however, a horse and trap would = be an excellent alternative mode of transport ... no petrol! (sorry, gasoline!)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Regards from a dark Sussex</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Michael G.(UK)</FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com href="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com">Farrell</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 23, 2005 = 10:44 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Stretching the = Treble</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>I'm not familiar with the phrase: "'Horse and = cart' piano tuning". What is that?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Are you suggesting that it is foolish to learn to = tune aurally - that it is better to just start out using an = ETD?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Hmmmmmm.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Terry Farrell</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV> <TABLE id=INCREDIMAINTABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 = width="100%" border=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD id=INCREDITEXTREGION style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; CURSOR: auto; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" width="100%"><DIV> Mark...Do yourself a favour and give = up "Horse and cart" piano tuning, and buy a recognized ETD. = The Cybertuner program is what you really need, and more, in the year = 2005.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Robin Stevens ARPT</DIV> <DIV>South Australia</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV id=IncrediOriginalMessage><I>-------Original Message-------</I></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>I have been "tuning" for several months now. I know that = this isn't</DIV> <DIV>very long but there is no sense in continually turning = out tunings that</DIV> <DIV>just don't sound right in the treble.</DIV> <DIV>I feel I have a good enough ear on this matter.</DIV> <DIV>I tune aurally and would like to know what partial(s) to = listen for to</DIV> <DIV>make this stretch sound more accurate.</DIV> <DIV>I have no trouble in the bass, only the treble.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thank you for your time</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Mark</DIV> <DIV>Montbriand</DIV></TD></TR> <TR> <TD id=INCREDIFOOTER width="100%"> <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"> <TBODY> <TR> <TD width="100%"></TD> <TD id=INCREDISOUND vAlign=bottom align=middle></TD> <TD id=INCREDIANIM vAlign=bottom = align=middle></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></BLOC= KQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>