<HTML><HEAD> <META charset=UTF-8 http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charse= t=utf-8"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2730.1700" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fffff= f"> <DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 1/17/2004 9:36:57 AM Pacific Standard Time, antares@= euronet.nl writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue = 2px solid"><FONT face=Arial>And why not, but in this case we are talking a= bout a Steinway made in <BR>hamburg and that is a different instrument with = different hammers.<BR>I can not say anything about American made Steinways b= ut I know they <BR>are very different.<BR><BR>PS. the hammers made by Ray Ne= gron are very much different from the <BR>ones Steinway Hamburg uses. I know= that because I personally asked Ray <BR>for samples.<BR><BR>friendly greeti= ngs<BR>from<BR>André Oorebeek<BR><BR>Amsterdam -<BR>The Netherlands</FONT>= </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#000040>    =    <FONT size=4>Andre</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#000040 size=4>   Th= ere was no mention of the 1913 S&S being a hamburg in M .Gambles origina= l post so being American I'm thinking this is a New York. In any case were s= till saying similar things & weighing & measuring no 1 hammers = is an excellent clue to original weights & No the Ronsen is not at all l= ike a Renner but I can't imagine that these hammers are unworkable on a Hamb= urg. Although I only see the occsasional one I have installed Ronsen hammers= in a 1915 ish O & the results were very good. The difference between vo= icing approaches as I see it is that in the U.S. many of us prefer the = sound of a softer hammer juiced up & from many post European techs prefe= r to start with a denser hammer & needle. These are the obvious voicing = styles/prefrences of the 2 different factories. Personally I like both sound= s but dislike the intense amount of needle work required on some sets of Ren= ner hammers (available to us) and the resultant brittleish sound. I am aware= that the version you have is different but for us its only available thru S= twy New York for $800.00 Yikes. So can we order from you for less money?</FO= NT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#000040 size=4>   Re= gards ----Dale Erwin</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>