<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1226" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hey Joe,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is there a visual anywhere regarding = this knot?  I'd like to see how it's done.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Joy!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Elwood</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Elwood Doss, Jr., RPT<BR>Piano Technician/Technical = Director<BR>Department of Music<BR>106 Fine Arts Building<BR>University of Tennessee at Martin<BR>Martin, TN  38238<BR>731-587-1152</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=imatunr@srvinet.com href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">Joe = And Penny Goss</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 26, 2004 = 9:01 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Tuner's = Knot--NOT!</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Dave, There is another knotfor = bass strings that might work in this case, One end ( the wraped ) is like the usual = knot, while the other looks like a shepherds crook. Use pipe cleaners to = practice tying.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The knot is applied by dry fitting = the two ends and measuring the length for the coil, before making the becket and = coil. Start the coil and watch the ends so that when thet are close they can = be mated. You will have to  twist the crook into position or loosen = the hitch and mate the two ends then twist the string in the direction of = the inner wrap. The twist will only be like a half turn or so and is not = hard to work with.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>Joe Goss<BR><A href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><BR><A = href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com">www.mothergoosetools.com</A></DI= V> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=Piannaman@aol.com href="mailto:Piannaman@aol.com">Piannaman@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 26, 2004 = 7:03 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Tuner's = Knot--NOT!</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT size=2 = PTSIZE="10">Hi all, <BR><BR>My last job of the day yesterday was a not-so-long-ago = refinished, re-strung M and H AA.  It was sitting in a room that could have = doubled as a sauna.  No window coverings on the huge windows, direct = afternoon sun for hours.  The side of the piano that faced the window was = hot to the touch. <BR><BR>I gave the owner a brief lecture about the = importance of getting her piano into a more temperate climatic situation, then set = to work on a 30 cent pitch raise.  First note, A0:  kinda tight = feeling pin, yank, THUD!  Broken, right at the pin.  Great = opportunity to splice it with the knot I practiced so diligently for so many hours. =   <BR><BR>I tried for about twenty minutes to get the leader(all I had = was 21 1/2 string to use, and the core of the broken string was probably = around 24), but I could not get it into position so that I could interface = the two ends properly.  The thick wire was pretty hard to work with, = because of lack of flexibility, but the main problem was that there was so = little space in that little corner of the piano. <BR><BR>Any ideas for making = this repair a little easier?  I'm certain that it could be done.  I = will be ordering a new string, however, and given that the strings are = relatively new, that will be the best fix.   <BR><BR>Why the original = broke is a mystery to me.  It seems likely that the stringer bent it one = too many times while installing it. <BR><BR>Input and advice?   = <BR><BR>Thanks, <BR><BR>Dave Stahl</FONT> = </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>