<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1264" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=198060921-16102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>Terry,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=198060921-16102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=198060921-16102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>My understanding is no, the spinner is driven by all the partials, the = value to attain is dicatated by the style, that's all.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=198060921-16102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=198060921-16102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>I believe also that we can ask the spinner to react only one partial, but = not in the fine or coarse tune modes. Did not really use that feature, only for = pitch control on other instruments (or testing a fork)</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=198060921-16102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>it is in the "measuring" mode.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=198060921-16102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=198060921-16102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>You question make sence nowadays, but when one use a custom style, the whole = range of partial still are on the display and active are not they ?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=198060921-16102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=198060921-16102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>Greetings.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=198060921-16102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=198060921-16102003></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=198060921-16102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <P><FONT size=2>Isaac OLEG<BR><BR>Entretien et réparation de pianos.<BR><BR>PianoTech<BR>17 rue de Choisy<BR>94400 VITRY sur SEINE<BR>FRANCE<BR>tel : 033 01 47 18 06 98<BR>fax : 033 01 47 18 06 = 90<BR>cell: 06 60 42 58 77 </FONT></P> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT = face=Tahoma size=2>-----Message d'origine-----<BR><B>De :</B> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]<B>De la = part de</B> Farrell<BR><B>Envoyé :</B> jeudi 16 octobre 2003 01:12<BR><B>À :</B> Pianotech<BR><B>Objet :</B> Re: = Verituner spinner movement<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Would it not be only the partials that are = addressed in the "style" data? Let's say in a case where you wanted a clean = (beatless) 4:2 octave and you specified no other partial relationships, the spinner presumably would stop when this condition was met. Now maybe if = further up the scale you had specified a 2:1 octave, then of course I should think = that the spinner was based on a compromise between these two relationships. But = we are only talking about two different partials for targeting the pitch of = this one note. I would think that the VT, for that note, would only be = considering the two partials. Of course, in better "styles", such as the wonderful one = I have been using that was authored by you (THANKS!!!!!), there are at least = six or eight partials that the "style" forces the VT to consider and make a compromise among those to determine the target pitch for that note.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>So I guess that's my question. Isn't it the = "style" thingee that dictates which partials are incorporated to calculating = target pitch?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Terry Farrell</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: "Ron Koval" <</FONT><A href="mailto:drwoodwind@hotmail.com"><FONT face=Arial size=2>drwoodwind@hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To: <</FONT><A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"><FONT face=Arial size=2>pianotech@ptg.org</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial = size=2>></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 = 9:15 AM</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: Verituner spinner movement</FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT = face=Arial size=2>> Terry Farrell asked:<BR>> <BR>> Is it the more = prominent partials that drive the spinner or is that =<BR>> controlled by = data in the "style" coding? Seems to me the style data =<BR>> would dictate = spinner motion (which may include data from up to 8 or =<BR>> however = many partials).<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Hey Terry,<BR>> <BR>> My understanding is that it is a blending of the usable partials based on = <BR>> the strength of each heard.  This from the user = guide:<BR>> <BR>> "The Verituner does not set a single partial and = offset.  The spinner reacts <BR>> dynamically to the combined targets of = multiple partials of the note you are <BR>> tuning.  The relative = strength and weakness of the partials also influence <BR>> the mothion of the spinner.  These and other variables are used by the <BR>> = Verituner's proprietary algorithm to determine the 0 point at which the <BR>> = spinner stops."<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> In fine tune mode, there is an = indication that represents the strength and <BR>> sustain of each of the partials.<BR>> <BR>> Help any?<BR>> <BR>> Ron = Koval<BR>> Chicagoland<BR>> <BR>> = _________________________________________________________________<BR>>= See when your friends are online with MSN Messenger 6.0. 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