<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=US-ASCII"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2802" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=role_body style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial" bottomMargin=7 leftMargin=7 topMargin=7 rightMargin=7><FONT id=rol= e_document face=Arial color=#000000 size=2> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV>Dale,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>No doubt about it....but some people like a heavier feel, and some pref= er lighter.  I guess we only really see it as a symptom if it we don't lik= e the way it feels.  I personally thought the pianos were fine before I played with the dampers. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'll chalk it up to experience/inexperience, and see how it plays out o= ver the next few appointments.  One of the appeals of this method for me wa= s that things can be changed back without a huge amount of effort.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks for the input,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Dave S., enthusiasm slightly "dampered"</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 1/20/2006 3:49:09 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, Erwinspiano@aol.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><= FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 size= =2> <DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>David</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>  As I think about this I must say that this reme= dy is just treating some other symptom , is it not?  Like poor geometry, to= o heavy hammers, or poor weigh off ...if any?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>  Dale:</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"= ><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 siz= e=2> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px soli= d"><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 s= ize=2> <DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV> <DIV>Remember of course that when we measure touch weights on a grand action, the action is usually on the bench or otherwise separated from= the damper assembly (say, by putting the sustain pedal on). In effect you'= ve made the action feel as those the sustain pedal is on, even when it isn't.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: no= ne; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING= : normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; khtml-text-dec= orations-in-effect: none; apple-text-size-adjust: auto; orphans: 2; widows: = 2"><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 10px; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></FONT> </BLOCKQU= OTE></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>True enough, but we're talking about real world playing.  Measuring on the bench doesn't give an accurate account o= f what the player actually feels with the piano fully assembled.</FONT></DIV></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" PTSIZE="1= 0"><B><I>Dale Erwins Piano Restorations</B> </I><BR>4721 Parker Rd.<BR>Modesto, Ca 95357<BR>209-577-8397 cell 209-985-0990<BR><B><I>Providing Custom Piano Restoration Services & </I><BR><I>Sales Of Restored</B><BR><B>Steinway= , Mason & Hamlin Pianos</B></I><BR>www.Erwinspiano.com</FONT></DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" PTSIZE="10"= >Dave Stahl<BR><BR>Dave Stahl Piano Service<BR>650-224-3560<U><BR><A href="http://www.dstahlpiano.net/">http://dstahlpiano.net/</A></U></FONT><= /DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML>