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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Joe Goss</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yes. You end up with TWO shepherds =
crooks. First
mic. up the core of the broken(torn? why torn?) string, select the =
closest
from your left-overs from bass restring jobs, prepare the end like (as =
you said)
a shepherds crook then, taking TWO pairs of duck-billed pliers, bend =
over HALF
the looped end so that it conforms to the reef-knot in its completed =
form. Next
do thou likewise to the end of the broken string. Follow this with (as =
you said)
passing both ends of one through the loop of the other. Keep trying and
experimenting. It's a good wheeze and gets you out of a lot of trouble =
very
quickly and effectively. I have even been known to strip back some of =
the
wrapping in order to get enough core to make my knot - and it didn't =
have any
effect on the tonal structure. Now that's what I call queer. =
:-}</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards - and Get Knotted! =
;-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Michael G (UK)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=imatunr@srvinet.com href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">Joe And =
Penny
Goss</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 03, 2003 10:29 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: Fw: Baldwin pre-cut string</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Michael,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am having a little bit of a =
time trying to
see what you are saying in forming the knot.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Are you using a sort of shepherds =
staff-crook with
the crook bent over on one end and at the other a crossover loop also =
bent over
on its short leg?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The long and short leg of the shepheard =
loop
passing through the crossover loop?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Joe Goss<BR><A
href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><BR><A
href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com">www.mothergoosetools.com</A></DI=
V>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=michael@gambles.fsnet.co.uk
href="mailto:michael@gambles.fsnet.co.uk">Michael Gamble</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 03, 2003 =
2:19
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Fw: Fw: Baldwin =
pre-cut
string</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Glenn C </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yes, You are quite right. I do try to =
use the
remaining string on "borrowed" pairs by this method - but only on old =
pianos
where to put in new strings quite spoils the voiced chromatic tonal =
structure.
I simply loosen off the unbroken one of the pair at the wrest pin, =
strighten
out as much as possible the bend around the hitch and then (using my
vise-grips on the hitch to keep all in place) thread the loose end =
back onto
its wrest pin and take up the slack. Remove vise-grips, check strings =
are on
the bridge OK and there you have it. Quick repair job. Another old =
dodge of
mine is to repair broken wrapped strings (if they break at the wrest =
pin) by
removing the old coil, s l o w l y undo the wrest pin about two whole =
turns,
tie on a piece of new string using the pre-formed reef-knot method, =
and there
you have it... again. A quite acceptable repair job in next to no =
time. For
this repair to be effective you have to carry around some left-over =
wrapped
string ends as the cores tend to be thicker than the thickest "metal" =
strings
genarally available - up to 0.050" some are. You also have to practice =
pre-forming the reef-knot. Tricky. Nearest explanation is the way =
string looks
as it goes round the hitch pin, but the plan is more like an Ohmega =
sign with
extended "legs" and even then the round end is bent over to help with =
this
pre-forming.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You know Glenn, you're the lucky ones =
over the
other side of the pond - we don't have any piano factories at all now =
in the
old country. Even Herrberger-Brooks have gone... End of an era.
:-(</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Michael G (UK)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=Crashvalve@aol.com
href="mailto:Crashvalve@aol.com">Crashvalve@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 26, 2003 1:36 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: Fw: Baldwin pre-cut string</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT face=Geneva =
color=#000000
size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR>In a message dated 10/26/03 3:16:59 =
AM, <A
=
href="mailto:michael@gambles.fsnet.co.uk">michael@gambles.fsnet.co.uk</=
A>
writes:<BR><BR><BR>
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size=2
FAMILY="SANSSERIF">to use the old string by simply loosening off =
its
companion, straightening out the old string where it had been on the =
hitch,
and threading it up to the old wrest-pin and tuning up. I find that =
when
doing this the tonal quality stays the same and they don't stretch =
like a
replacement new string.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT face=Geneva =
color=#000000
size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR><BR>hello michael<BR>I'm thinking =
you're
referring to re-useing a Broken string in this context, am I right ? =
BTW, this
stringing dept. at conway was even more surreal since they also used =
pneumatic
hammers mounted on swing arms, and the strung backs were laid on a =
forty-five
degree angle fixture. and this just a week after I toured Aeolian, =
whose
stringers were scarily bad !<BR>Glenn C.</FONT><FONT face=Geneva =
color=#000000
size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></FONT> =
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