<HTML>In a message dated 11/24/01 3:19:28 PM !!!First Boot!!!, erwinpiano@msn.com writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">What I want to know is at what point you can keep the bloomin thing from flying out of there as its strung. My best success is to use a bit of pressure from a pry bar and block to give it a good shove into position before the chipping and tuning is attempted</BLOCKQUOTE> When I string, all the strings are pulled up to some tension. Then, just before chipping, I use the sledge hammer I use to pound in strings, to tap the wedge in place. There is enough tension on the horn to keep the wedge in place during chipping. Wim Wim</HTML>