<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; = charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 10 (filtered)"> <style>  </style> </head> <body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue> <div class=Section1> >>Here's an idea: = let associates be associates, but make their fees double until they become = RPTs. Use the extra money to promote the RPT status. That would either be an incentive to stay and upgrade, or leave.     All that would do is double the = number of tuners that wouldn’t become associates. I resisted for 20 years = and I have to tell you cost was a huge factor. Especially since I was not = convinced of the benefits. <div> Dean Dean = May           &nbs= p; cell 812.239.3359 PianoRebuilders.com   = 812.235.5272 Terre Haute IN  47802 </div>   -----Origi= nal Message----- From: = pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of John Formsma Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 5:21 = PM To: Pianotech List Subject: Re: = Upgrading.....   And = it probably won't be resolved this year either. ;-) I guess if folks don't want to = read this, they can press delete now..... My doble pesos... I'm an associate who hopes to become an RPT, maybe this year if I can = work things that way. Even though I'm not yet an RPT, I fully support every effort to make PTG = an organization of primarily RPTs. The higher the standards, the better, = IMO. The two things that have prevented me from this have been: 1) Excessive personal debt in 2001-2003 that forced me to work more, = doing tunings and basic service. Having to service the debt load meant there = was less time for concentrated learning and improvement. Now that I'm debt-free = except the house, there is less stress and more time for learning. 2) My wife's death in Dec. 2004 and having to keep two small boys while juggling work. I took a year to be at home a lot with the kids and = worked 2-3 long days a week so I could spend the rest with them to help them get = adjusted too. Now I'm getting them in day care to have more time for work and = getting to RPT. I'm also not the most naturally mechanically minded so I have to = think through things carefully. So, I need blocks of time to sit and think = through the new stuff. I'll hopefully have that in a couple of weeks. One thing that has made me want to upgrade has been that ptg.org lists = RPTs to the general public. Good going on that one, BTW. What would be an incentive to upgrading to RPT? Here's an idea: let = associates be associates, but make their fees double until they become RPTs. Use = the extra money to promote the RPT status. That would either be an incentive to = stay and upgrade, or leave. John Formsma Avery wrote: <meta http-equiv=Context-Type content="text/html; = charset=us-ascii"> This subject HAS been on ptg-L. For DAYS!!!!!!!!!! Weeks? :-( Avery At 09:05 AM 2/10/2006, you wrote: Looks like = this should be on ptg-l.   Barbara Richmond ----- Original = Message ----- From: <a href="mailto:mkurta@adelphia.net">Mike Kurta</a> To: <a href="mailto:ptg-l@ptg.org">PTG Topics</a> ; <a = href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</a> Sent: = Friday, February 10, 2006 8:24 AM Subject: Upgrading.....     Standing back and taking a long look at the number of associates who = have not upgraded, how about a personal approach on a chapter level?  Though = there needs to be good incentives to move to RPT status, would a one-on-one, face-to-face conversation with each associate by another chapter member, officer or not, would yeild more results than all the machinations from = higher up?  Find out personally if the member has interest in upgrading, = and if so, how can the chapter help to move him/her in that direction?  = There are some who have no interest and will never be an RPT for whatever = reason.  However, they still want to be a part of the organization.  That = may always be.  But the associates who plan to become RPT's perhaps can best = be served by a dialogue in person, privately, quietly,  from another member,  and that person could also be his/her mentor through the process.   Flame suit on and ready.....     Mike Kurta </div> </body> </html>