<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1458" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV>Matthew,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In truth, There is = no harm in installing only the dehumidifier/humidistat, anywhere in = the world.  With this set-up, the worst case scenario is that we are "preventing" the humidity from ever rising above "42%."  A huge improvement, in my book, over leaving everything to the changing = winds.  Perhaps, even in wet climes, the humidifier might offer more control, = but I think it is reasonable to see the humidifier as "added benefit" over = having dehumidifier only.  You will not harm anything by not allowing the = piano to go over 42% RH.  With dehumidifier only, anywhere in the world, the = RH in the piano's environment is free to fluctuate between 0%, and 42%, as = opposed to between 0% and 100% without any climate control.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My 33 pesos,</DIV> <DIV>William R. = Monroe Madison, WI Assoc.</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black">From: <A title=pianotech88@yahoo.com = href="mailto:pianotech88@yahoo.com">Matthew Todd</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">To: <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Sent: Sunday, September 19, = 2004 4:41 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Subject: Re: Dampp-Chaser sold = on the internet (cheap)!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I see your guys point on this.  Is there harm in installing = the whole system in Florida anyhow?  I guess you don't need to = install the whole system if you know for sure that your clients plan to live in = Florida the rest of their lives.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Matthew Avery Todd <<A href="mailto:avery@ev1.net">avery@ev1.net</A>> = wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px = solid">At 10:36 AM 9/19/04, you wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite">Piano's = environment???  You mean to say that your clients pianos never drop below 42% = relative humidity?  Do your clients keep their pianos on their front porch?  If not, then a complete Dampp-Chaser is necessary.</BLOCKQUOTE> Not in a climate like Houston. OR = Florida! :-) Avery <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" = type="cite">Matthew Farrell <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com> wrote: <DL> <DD>Unless of course relative = humidity levels in the piano's environment never drop below 40% RH. Under such = conditions, why on earth would you install a humidifier? Such are the = conditions here in central Florida. My car is properly outfitted - even = though I don't put snow tires on it in the winter - right? <DD>   <DD>Terry Farrell <DL> <DD>----- Original Message ----- <DD>From: <A href="mailto:pianotech88@yahoo.com">Matthew = Todd</A> <DD>To: <A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> = <DD>Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 11:34 PM <DD>Subject: Re: Dampp-Chaser sold on the internet (cheap)! <DD>Basic upright system?  I hope we all realize the = importance of the COMPLETE Dampp-Chaser system.  Otherwise it cannot = do it's job properly. <DD>   <DD>By the way, didn't Dampp-Chaser raise it's prices = currently?? <DD>   <DD>Matthew <DD>Ryan Sowers <<A = href="mailto:pianorye@yahoo.com">pianorye@yahoo.com</A>> wrote: <DL> <DD>Tell the client that it really isn't any great deal. <DD>   <DD> I buy Dampp-chaser 3 packs from Schaff for = $178.50. Divided by three that's about $60 per piano. Double the = price for your retail mark-up and that's $120. I charge a half hour = labor to put in a basic upright system (50 watt rod + humidistat). = <DD>   <DD>However, now that I am sold on the value of the back = covers I'll have to add an appropriate amount to the installation fee. = <DD>Clyde Allen <tunepiano1@yahoo.com> = wrote: <DL> <DD>I recently received a call from a prospective = customer <DD>who claimed he could buy a Dampp-Chaser humidistat = for <DD>$77 and a dehumidifying rod for $48 on the internet. = A <DD>complete systen for a vertical piano is $270 and for = a <DD>grand is $326. He sent me the link. When I = followed <DD>the link and clicked on item #14 I found he was <DD>telling the truth. He realizes that to install it <DD>himself will void the warranty. Nevertheless he = wants <DD>to compare my price for buying the parts (and <DD>installing) with the price he can get the parts = for <DD>online and have me install. My first reaction which = I <DD>did not voice is that if he buys the parts I will = not <DD>touch it. What do you think? How would you handle = this <DD>situation? <DD><A = href="http://www.vandaking.com/us-shop/index.html" = eudora="autourl">http://www.vandaking.com/us-shop/index.html</A> <BR= > <DD>Piano Showcase <DD>Order Toll Free 1-800-791-7144 <DD>Dampp Chaser® Humidistat for Dehumidifier <DD>Automatic Humidistat for Uprights & Grands - $77.00 <DD>This is a Genuine Dampp-Chaser® Humidistat. Just = plug <DD>your Dampp Chaser dehumidifier into the humidistat = and <DD>it will automatically turn it on and off for you. <DD>It's a great asset for every size of dehumidifier = rod, <DD>however, the manufacturer requires that it must be <DD>used with all 48" dehumidifiers greater than 15 = watts. <DD>S-H2 for Uprights <DD>S-GH-2V for Grands supplied with Velcro. = <DD>================= <DD>LIMITS OF LIABILITY: <DD>You are buying a Dampp-Chaser product. <DD>All Dampp Chaser products must be installed by a <DD>qualified piano technician. If the humidistat is <DD>installed by someone other than a qualified piano <DD>technician, the warranty is void, and the seller = and <DD>manufacturer assume no responsibility for damage = that <DD>may occur to your piano as a a result of improper <DD>installation of the Humidistat, or failure to <DD>understand and make neces! ! ! sary adjustments and perform <DD>necessary maintenance. <DD>By purchasing this Humdistat, it is understood = that <DD>the above statement is agreed to, and the buyer = agrees <DD>not to hold Dampp-Chaser Electronics Corporation = or <DD>Piano Showcase liable for any damage to your piano = if <DD>it is not installed as directed. <DD>Base price : U.S.$ 77.00 <DD>__________________________________________________ <DD>Do You Yahoo!? <DD>Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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